Lucas Patrick

[pulses]

(Today, 12:21 AM)bengalsboy Wrote: His name is Armond Membou.Not Marcus.

He was thinking of Marcus Mbow I believe 

[Bilbo Saggins]

(Yesterday, 11:07 PM)bfine32 Wrote: If Patrick is our worst starting olineman this year. we've improved.

If Tyler Eifert would've stayed healthier than Gronkowski, Andy Dalton might've competed with Tom Brady for Super Bowls.  He's an injury case.  So was Eric All.  They lost Cappa, the best OL on the team not very long ago.  The LT played on a broken leg last season and may not really be all that good any more.  This line is doo-doo kaka poopy until proven otherwise.  Karras is likely to get worse before he gets better.  

[BoomerFan]

I'm on board, though it is hard not to notice that when we find these bargain players some of them were one hit wonders. Have a good year, go to the Bengals and slouch off or be exposed for your shortcomings. See also Nick Scott.

[M.W.]

(Yesterday, 09:48 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I have heard no definitive plans to mover Karras, but if so, why would he not be the backup for center.

I will wait and see how he plays before I totally dismiss him a good piece to our OL. I am also interested to see the Bengals draft plan unfold in about 5 weeks.  Some don't like the convert an OT to guard in year one. But I do remember a 2nd round OT named Whittworth who converted and did very well until he won the LT job.

I think Conerly is an OT who may be there in round 2 for us. Many experts think he is a very good guard prospect who could also develop into a solid OT.. There is Jackson who played LT and guard at OSU and others. I just don't think we can pass on the the best safety in the draft or not invest on defense with pick #17.

I agree with others, lots of guys we could target at 23 to 30 also if we can find a trade partner to give us a 2nd round and their 1st round pick to trade down.

Good post, I am with you on going defense 1st.  
We just re-signed a good TE, 2 fantastic WR, signed an OG.  

Absolutely no way Cinci will take RB at 17, unless there is an absolute stud of a offensive lineman that happened to fall to 17 that was a top 10 prospect, we must take the best defensive player still available in my opinion.

[*bfine32*]

(Today, 06:33 AM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: If Tyler Eifert would've stayed healthier than Gronkowski, Andy Dalton might've competed with Tom Brady for Super Bowls.  He's an injury case.  So was Eric All.  They lost Cappa, the best OL on the team not very long ago.  The LT played on a broken leg last season and may not really be all that good any more.  This line is doo-doo kaka poopy until proven otherwise.  Karras is likely to get worse before he gets better.  

Lucas Patrick would have to stay healthy to be our worst starting olineman or else he wouldn't be a starting lineman. 

Who do you want us to sign? Telvin "back ache" Jenkins, Brandon "Dodgy Knee" Schreff, Will "failed physical" Hernandez?  

[Luvnit2]

(8 hours ago)bfine32 Wrote: Lucas Patrick would have to stay healthy to be our worst starting olineman or else he wouldn't be a starting lineman. 

Who do you want us to sign? Telvin "back ache" Jenkins, Brandon "Dodgy Knee" Schreff, Will "failed physical" Hernandez?  

It is possible they signed Patrick to allow Hernandez time to be ready in 2025. He is only 6 or 7 months after knee surgery. He may not be available until closer to. the middle of 2025 season. Or they plan on drafting a guard in round after round 1 and feel the guard will need time to develop.

We don't know at this point if Patrick is penciled in as the 2025 starter or a backup of multiple positions.

[*bfine32*]

(7 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: It is possible they signed Patrick to allow Hernandez time to be ready in 2025. He is only 6 or 7 months after knee surgery. He may not be available until closer to. the middle of 2025 season. Or they plan on drafting a guard in round after round 1 and feel the guard will need time to develop.

We don't know at this point if Patrick is penciled in as the 2025 starter or a backup of multiple positions.

It appears Lucas understands he's not penciled in as day 1 starter

https://www.bengals.com/news/lucas-patrick-s-experienced-versatility-drawn-to-bengals-firepower-this-is-an-exciting-offense-to-join

Quote:"Come in and compete," Patrick said of his role. "See how things shake out. I know there's still a draft and they're probably filling out some more spots. But I'm just fired up to be a Bengal and work with the staff and the players who are here. There are some pretty elite players who will be exciting to be teammates with from what I've seen from a far."

[BengalsBong]

(7 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: It is possible they signed Patrick to allow Hernandez time to be ready in 2025. He is only 6 or 7 months after knee surgery. He may not be available until closer to. the middle of 2025 season. Or they plan on drafting a guard in round after round 1 and feel the guard will need time to develop.

We don't know at this point if Patrick is penciled in as the 2025 starter or a backup of multiple positions.

This is what they did with Mims and Trent Brown last year.

Except Mims was a first-round pick.

[Luvnit2]

(7 hours ago)BengalsBong Wrote: This is what they did with Mims and Trent Brown last year.

Except Mims was a first-round pick.

Mims is also ranked higher than any true guard in this draft. They may take a guard in round 1, I would be surprised because of our needs on defense.

[pulses]

(7 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Mims is also ranked higher than any true guard in this draft. They may take a guard in round 1, I would be surprised because of our needs on defense.

No guard in round 1 to much defensive talent.

[Nepa]

(8 hours ago)M.W. Wrote: Good post, I am with you on going defense 1st.  
We just re-signed a good TE, 2 fantastic WR, signed an OG.  

Absolutely no way Cinci will take RB at 17, unless there is an absolute stud of a offensive lineman that happened to fall to 17 that was a top 10 prospect, we must take the best defensive player still available in my opinion.

The one exception for me is TE Tyler Warren, should he fall. It would be hard to pass up on the BPA when it's someone who, beside being a good receiver, is a good pass blocker for Burrow and run blocker for RBs, and can set up under center for short-yardage runs, a Philly shove, or even a pass. I'm hoping he isn't available because the team needs defense, but if he is, then the Bengals should grab him and make a trade for defense. Imagine having plays where the Bengals have Warren and Geisicki, Chase Brown, and Ja'Marr and Tee. The opposing defense would have no idea what is coming. The Bengals could even have 5 receivers, without the defense knowing that.  And the Bengals could go for it on every 4th and 1.

[Luvnit2]

(7 hours ago)Nepa Wrote: The one exception for me is TE Tyler Warren, should he fall. It would be hard to pass up on the BPA when it's someone who, beside being a good receiver, is a good pass blocker for Burrow and run blocker for RBs, and can set up under center for short-yardage runs, a Philly shove, or even a pass. I'm hoping he isn't available because the team needs defense, but if he is, then the Bengals should grab him and make a trade for defense. Imagine having plays where the Bengals have Warren and Geisicki, Chase Brown, and Ja'Marr and Tee. The opposing defense would have no idea what is coming. The Bengals could even have 5 receivers, without the defense knowing that.  And the Bengals could go for it on every 4th and 1.

I am a huge Warren fan and I think it would be very hard to pass on him. But, if the best safety in this draft is sitting there also, he can also be a long term stud on defense. We have one defensive stud on our roster. We have 3 offensive studs on our roster.

Our offense is very good and our defense is very bad. I hope they choose the safety.

[The D.O.Z.]

The only G I would spend a first on, in THIS draft, would be the kid from OSU. He doesn’t have a first round grade on him, but his ability to play LT is a boon that can’t be ignored. If he can do this at the professional level, you’d be looking at a OBJr. replacement down the road in the not so distant future. I wouldn’t reach at 17 for him though. I’d trade back a bit, pick up an extra pick or two, and snatch him up late first round. Gives us that fifth year option to use too.

Then I’d spend the rest of my picks loading up Golden’s defense unless a nice complementary RB fell late.

[Frank Booth]

(6 hours ago)The D.O.Z. Wrote: The only G I would spend a first on, in THIS draft, would be the kid from OSU.

Of course you would.

[Sled21]

I like the signing. If nothingfor nothing else than for the competition for the job. Volson lost his starting spot last year. Cody Ford was on the verge of starting. Somebody is going to have to be mean enough to take the spots this year.

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 10:44 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: This. We need guard help now if we had a year to coach him up at the position then converting a OT to G would be ok.

But we don't have that year so if the guy has not played the guard spot on the same side as we are drafting him to fill then I pass.

I want to guy ready at his guard spot without learning new footwork or switching hands up according to left or right side.

A swing guard with exp. at LG and RG would be ideal.

Donovan Jackson would be a great prospect. He first cracked the starting five as a RG, before being promoted to LG and eventually doing a stellar job as the the LT for half of the season. Talented, athletic, aggressive, good hands and feet.

[Soonerpeace]

I think Scott Peters has a plan and it’s not just finding glass eaters. I think between Volson, Patrick, Ford, and an early guard in the draft they will end there. This team has a lot of needs. They can’t address them all in the draft and FA. I’m predicting a much better OL. Jaxon Kirkland is the player to watch.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(7 hours ago)Nepa Wrote: The one exception for me is TE Tyler Warren, should he fall. It would be hard to pass up on the BPA when it's someone who, beside being a good receiver, is a good pass blocker for Burrow and run blocker for RBs, and can set up under center for short-yardage runs, a Philly shove, or even a pass. I'm hoping he isn't available because the team needs defense, but if he is, then the Bengals should grab him and make a trade for defense. Imagine having plays where the Bengals have Warren and Geisicki, Chase Brown, and Ja'Marr and Tee. The opposing defense would have no idea what is coming. The Bengals could even have 5 receivers, without the defense knowing that.  And the Bengals could go for it on every 4th and 1.

I am with you. It would be AWFULLY hard to pass on Warren. I would not. But I think it unlikely he gets to us. Ditto Will Campbell or Membou. I think those are the only offensive guys I would take at 17. No on Jeanty and Booker and any of the WRs. Loveland MAYBE if he can block, no if he is a big slot. 

[Bengalfan4life27c]

worst case scenario we go with 2 of the 3 of Volson Ford Patrick

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(6 hours ago)Soonerpeace Wrote: I think Scott Peters has a plan and it’s not just finding glass eaters. I think between Volson, Patrick, Ford, and an early guard in the draft they will end there. This team has a lot of needs. They can’t address them all in the draft and FA. I’m predicting a much better OL. Jaxon Kirkland is the player to watch.

Kirkland has been IR two years running despite playing like 10 snaps. I would not count on him overmuch.