Shemar Stewart @ 17 ?

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-29-2025, 01:30 PM)Whatever Wrote: When you have a guy with Stewart's athletic profile and lack of production, it's troubling.

I mean, some will point to pressures, but why can't he finish?  With his ability there's no good reason why he can't.  That run stop rate points to a complete lack of effort.  Kid doesn't have the "want to" to finish plays, either putting in that extra effort on the field or in practice so he CAN finish.  He doesn't care enough about that.  It doesn't mean enough to him.  

He just feels like the type of guy that doesn't love the game and sees it as a means to an end.  He cruises on his athletic ability, knows he'll be a first round pick because some teams will sell themselves on the idea that they can "fix" or "motivate" him, and he'll be out of the league in a few years having "earned" more than enough money to retire comfortably.  

This is exactly the type of player you stay away from, ala Jackson Carman. Tons of talent, but not the want to be great, nor the love of the game.

[BoomerFan]

On the one hand, there must be a reason he keeps falling to us in mocks. Like, the people who make the sites or who are picking do not believe in the mock boards that others have put up where he is supposedly 11th overall. It definitely is reminiscent of Myles Murphy.

It'd be nice it the Bengals could trade down in the first a bit, but if they can't they might take him. One upside I could see is that while one Myles Murphy may not be productive for you, two might be. Think about it. Teams game plan for the type of player they face. They might be able to deal with one super-athletic pass rusher who isn't very skilled but two? Basically you might be able to overload them with a very athletic defensive front. And when I looked at the Twitter video posted in this thread what I noticed is a lot of those plays were moving away from Shemar. So even though he didn't get there he was having an impact.

Or maybe that is just copium from me. I probably would try to avoid taking him. Find the first round player that excites you for what they add to their position group. As long as you aren't reaching, that is a recipe for success. Shemar feels like a choice where we think we are getting value but maybe aren't.