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(Today, 12:28 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I just don't get people who jump to extreme conclusions. I point out something that's not there and make the claim he's not going to be this great player you're trying to make him out to be, so i'm a hater and i want him to fail. He's a Cincinnati Bengal. I want him to succeed and be great. That doesn't mean i need to make stuff up and see what's not there.
I don't go looking for reasons to substantiate my claim. I go looking for reasons to disprove it. When i can't find them...well, the truth is the truth.
Of course he made some plays. You're going to see that with anyone. If you think he's this uber-disruptor from the videos i provided, i don't know what to tell you. The only thing i can do is wait for you to come to the conclusion that you're wrong. It would benefit us both if i was wrong and i won't be upset if i am.
So, here we are.
You’re good. Posters will have different opinions on Stewart. Stewart has a huge upside. I don’t think he’ll bust but he’s a head scratcher on his production.
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(7 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: If any of this was even remotely the case, then why was he projected to go in the first round, and how was he the leader in pressures? It wasn't just the Bengals that wanted him.
Total body of work. There's many more games than what i provided and it's based on everything. Plus, what happens at places like the Senior Bowl and combine can have huge effects on players draft position.
I just showed games against the type of talent he will be facing every game and not the games against good ole Directional U.
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My optimism of Shemar is that he's supposedly a good run defender. So if those that see the disruptiveness are right and Shemar is a monster in the NFL, great! But, at the very least, between Shemar and Slayton (and maybe Burks), we should, at the very least, be much improved in the run game.
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The Steelers were probably cackling when the bengals took Stewart over Harmon
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(5 hours ago)rfaulk34 Wrote: Total body of work. There's many more games than what i provided and it's based on everything. Plus, what happens at places like the Senior Bowl and combine can have huge effects on players draft position.
I just showed games against the type of talent he will be facing every game and not the games against good ole Directional U.
And you don't think the experts looked at the same film you did? I'm sorry, I'm not following the logic here. Teams looked at his film, his total body of work as you say, watched him in person, talked to his coaches about what his role in the defense was and how he was used, looked at his tangibles, and gave him a first round grade.
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(5 hours ago)c766 Wrote: The Steelers were probably cackling when the bengals took Stewart over Harmon
They won't be cackling when he hits their QB....
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(4 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: They won't be cackling when he hits their QB....
Lucky for the Steelers - Stewart only finds his way to the QB for a sack about once a season.
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(Yesterday, 11:33 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Wow, comparing a 4th round OL to a 1st round End hoping for him to fail as well...
Sometimes I just don't get it.
Also, in the Notre Dame game, Stewart made tons of great plays and a lot of the big plays for the Irish were when #4 wasn't in the game.
Just proved once again how disruptive he can be if coached up properly.
Exactly who on this team have the staff coached up properly? I guess if I squint I could argue it's Iosivas... Even then, that could've just been from way more opportunity with Tee being out, and Burton being outta line.
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(4 hours ago)jason Wrote: Exactly who on this team have the staff coached up properly? I guess if I squint I could argue it's Iosivas... Even then, that could've just been from way more opportunity with Tee being out, and Burton being outta line.
Remember we have different Defensive coaches Jason.
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(Today, 12:28 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I just don't get people who jump to extreme conclusions. I point out something that's not there and make the claim he's not going to be this great player you're trying to make him out to be, so i'm a hater and i want him to fail. He's a Cincinnati Bengal. I want him to succeed and be great. That doesn't mean i need to make stuff up and see what's not there.
I don't go looking for reasons to substantiate my claim. I go looking for reasons to disprove it. When i can't find them...well, the truth is the truth.
Of course he made some plays. You're going to see that with anyone. If you think he's this uber-disruptor from the videos i provided, i don't know what to tell you. The only thing i can do is wait for you to come to the conclusion that you're wrong. It would benefit us both if i was wrong and i won't be upset if i am.
So, here we are.
You were the one who compared Volson a 4th round OL to Stewart a 1st round pick....
You were jumping to extreme conclusions. You have always hated Volson and you were right to, I agree and hope you are wrong about Stewart.
I have watched a lot more film than just what you provided as well of Stewart. He dominated the Senior Bowl as well. I don't just leave stuff out
to prove my point. I think you missed a lot of plays where Stewart was very disruptive, you do know that he was #4?
(7 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: If any of this was even remotely the case, then why was he projected to go in the first round, and how was he the leader in pressures? It wasn't just the Bengals that wanted him.
Exactly. I have heard people say that sacks are overrated and pressures are underrated on here. But that is not the case with Stewart I guess.
In a pure pass rushing set he should get a lot more chances at getting sacks as well. Especially with Trey being on the other side of him, just
need Trey paid so he is happy.
(6 hours ago)CottonHill Wrote: There were two other NFL d linemen on that line, so he wasnt treated like a Bosa or Carter. Also, that defense was still terrible.
Yes he was, Stewart was the one Offenses doubled and chipped the most. Watch the damn film. Scourton benefitted from a lot of Stewart's
disruption and you can see this in the film as well. We will see who will be the better pro, my bet is on Stewart.
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(4 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yes he was, Stewart was the one Offenses doubled and chipped the most. Watch the damn film. Scourton benefitted from a lot of Stewart's
disruption and you can see this in the film as well. We will see who will be the better pro, my bet is on Stewart.
The dynamic duo of Stewart and Scourton amassed a whooping 6 sacks last year, combined.
What a set of disruptors
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(4 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: And you don't think the experts looked at the same film you did? I'm sorry, I'm not following the logic here. Teams looked at his film, his total body of work as you say, watched him in person, talked to his coaches about what his role in the defense was and how he was used, looked at his tangibles, and gave him a first round grade.
Teams, coaches, scouts, draftniks. Any of them ever been wrong about a 1st rounder?...
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(3 hours ago)c766 Wrote: The dynamic duo of Stewart and Scourton amassed a whooping 6 sacks last year, combined.
What a set of disruptors
And you conveniently leave out what type of Defense they were on. Know football a little bit, sacks are not everything.
Guarantee he will get a lot of sacks in the NFL on the Bengals who allow their Ends to actually rush the passer a lot.
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(4 hours ago)jason Wrote: Exactly who on this team have the staff coached up properly? I guess if I squint I could argue it's Iosivas... Even then, that could've just been from way more opportunity with Tee being out, and Burton being outta line.
Yoshi looks to be a hard worker and he put in the time last offseason. Don't think that had anything to do with the coaches.
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(4 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You were the one who compared Volson a 4th round OL to Stewart a 1st round pick....
No, i was comparing the situation where you were pro Volson for a long time and i didn't like him from the beginning.
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(3 hours ago)rfaulk34 Wrote: No, i was comparing the situation where you were pro Volson for a long time and i didn't like him from the beginning.
Okay, cool, you were right on that one. I was willing to give him a chance as he shown flashes of being good at times. But I wouldn't be against cutting
the guy now if it allowed us to add a better player or even better put some dough to Trey's new contract.
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(3 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Okay, cool, you were right on that one. I was willing to give him a chance as he shown flashes of being good at times. But I wouldn't be against cutting
the guy now if it allowed us to add a better player or even better put some dough to Trey's new contract.
Cool beans.
I'm thinking we can just copypasta this post to use for SS when the time comes in about 3/4 years, eh? 
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(4 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: They won't be cackling when he hits their QB....
Wait ... the Steelers have a QB?
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(3 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: And you conveniently leave out what type of Defense they were on. Know football a little bit, sacks are not everything.
Guarantee he will get a lot of sacks in the NFL on the Bengals who allow their Ends to actually rush the passer a lot.
You have no idea what you are talking about. 4/2/5 is supposed to INCREASE pressure on the QB.
LOL
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(3 hours ago)rfaulk34 Wrote: Cool beans.
I'm thinking we can just copypasta this post to use for SS when the time comes in about 3/4 years, eh?
Sure, I am willing to die on a hill supporting Bengals players, done it before. I also wanted us to draft Jesse Bates, Logan Wilson,
Chase Brown and others before before we did, so it goes both ways. I can definitely be wrong.
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