Trey Hendrickson Update

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-02-2025, 02:42 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I don't think so either especially if he hires a new agent. Thinking Trey just wants a 3 or 4 year deal and that is what is holding things up.

Bengals just don't want to go for more than 2 and I get it.

They should take a look at TJ Watt's last contract. They could offer 4 years, somewhere around 125M with a 30M signing bonus and about 60M guaranteed with an out for that 4th year. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(06-02-2025, 03:03 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: They should take a look at TJ Watt's last contract. They could offer 4 years, somewhere around 125M with a 30M signing bonus and about 60M guaranteed with an out for that 4th year. 

Sounds about right to me.

[Chezaugie]

(06-02-2025, 03:03 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: They should take a look at TJ Watt's last contract. They could offer 4 years, somewhere around 125M with a 30M signing bonus and about 60M guaranteed with an out for that 4th year. 

I love Trey, but, he is no TJ Watts.

[c766]

(06-02-2025, 03:03 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: They should take a look at TJ Watt's last contract. They could offer 4 years, somewhere around 125M with a 30M signing bonus and about 60M guaranteed with an out for that 4th year. 

This would be a laughable contract to entertain for the Bengals 

[c766]

(06-02-2025, 03:03 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: They should take a look at TJ Watt's last contract. They could offer 4 years, somewhere around 125M with a 30M signing bonus and about 60M guaranteed with an out for that 4th year. 

They have him under contract for 16M this year, and w the tag next, 24M. 

So 40 mill for two years without lifting a finger 

And, our fan boys want to give him a 31M AOV contract per year. LOL

[Luvnit2]

(06-02-2025, 08:44 PM)c766 Wrote: They have him under contract for 16M this year, and w the tag next, 24M. 

So 40 mill for two years without lifting a finger 

And, our fan boys want to give him a 31M AOV contract per year. LOL

I see the argument for giving him 28 to 31 million in 2025. They have good points. I am over the drama, but if they can come to an acceptable compromise for Trey and the team, they should do it. I think the problem is the team has made their best offer and Trey wants to keep negotiating. 

He fails to realize at this point, he is negotiating with himself. Yes, the team does hold the cards and theri choice how they decide to play them. It looks like they have decided not to go all in with Trey and I can't blame them.

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-02-2025, 08:10 PM)Chezaugie Wrote: I love Trey, but, he is no TJ Watts.

I didn't say he was. I said look at Watt's last contract. It would be around $30/31M a year. 

(06-02-2025, 08:25 PM)c766 Wrote: This would be a laughable contract to entertain for the Bengals 

There's nothing laughable about it. 

(06-02-2025, 08:44 PM)c766 Wrote: They have him under contract for 16M this year, and w the tag next, 24M. 

So 40 mill for two years without lifting a finger 

And, our fan boys want to give him a 31M AOV contract per year. LOL

Who's a fanboy?

[wanga]

Ah ‘fan boys’ as a tepid insult. Never grows old.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(06-02-2025, 08:10 PM)Chezaugie Wrote: I love Trey, but, he is no TJ Watts.

It doesn't matter if he is or isn't. That contract was signed 4 years ago. The cap has risen about $97m (or about 53%) since then.

For comparison, the top paid QBs in 2021 were...
Mahomes: $45m/yr
Allen: $43m/yr
Prescott: $40m/yr

Now in 2025 they are...
Prescott: $60m/yr
Burrow, Love, Allen, Lawrence tied: $55m/yr

There are 13 QBs now making more in 2025 than the highest paid QB was making in 2021.

Heck, in 2021 there was only 1 WR making at least $21m/yr. Now there's 19.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(06-02-2025, 08:44 PM)c766 Wrote: They have him under contract for 16M this year, and w the tag next, 24M. 

So 40 mill for two years without lifting a finger 

And, our fan boys want to give him a 31M AOV contract per year. LOL

And your argument is to keep Trey unhappy, genius shit right there...

[Essex Johnson]

(06-02-2025, 01:46 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: They spent $28.75m/yr on their 0x Pro Bowl #2 WR who last had 1k yards 3 years ago.

But the 1st Team All-Pro back-to-back 17.5 sack guy should take even less than that because otherwise the Bengals can't afford to keep a defense together? Lol

i would have preferred to redo Tre contract over Higgins but i think the Burrow pressure on FO influenced that, but i would not sign him to his asking price of 40 m

[Sled21]

(06-02-2025, 10:50 AM)J24 Wrote: Is it  Trey last year on his current deal?
Has Trey performed at a high level?
Would it benefit the Bengals to sign him to a long-term deal now instead of letting his price go up and signing him next offseason?

You want to go through this again next offseason?

You completely missed the part where he asks for a new deal every year.

[Stewy]

(06-02-2025, 01:46 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: They spent $28.75m/yr on their 0x Pro Bowl #2 WR who last had 1k yards 3 years ago.

But the 1st Team All-Pro back-to-back 17.5 sack guy should take even less than that because otherwise the Bengals can't afford to keep a defense together? Lol

(06-03-2025, 01:19 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: i would have preferred to redo Tre contract over Higgins but i think the Burrow pressure on FO influenced that, but i would not sign him to his asking price of 40 m

How are we missing the point that the Higgins discussion is irrelevant in the Trey matter because Higgins getting what he did had to do with coercion and blackmail by Chase vs. the FO valuing Higgins over Trey.

Seriously, Higgins doesn't matter in the discussion because the FO had no choice except to lose Chase/Higgins or keep both.  So the real discussion is Chase/Higgins vs. Trey not Higgins vs. Trey.

[c766]

(06-02-2025, 10:14 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: And your argument is to keep Trey unhappy, genius shit right there...

Who cares about his feelings? It’s the NFL - you would make a horrible gm if you let feelings dictate player contracts.

And He just got a contract raise and extension 22 months ago.

He is under contract for the next 2 years, as far as the bengals are concerned.

[Luvnit2]

(06-02-2025, 10:10 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: It doesn't matter if he is or isn't. That contract was signed 4 years ago. The cap has risen about $97m (or about 53%) since then.

For comparison, the top paid QBs in 2021 were...
Mahomes: $45m/yr
Allen: $43m/yr
Prescott: $40m/yr

Now in 2025 they are...
Prescott: $60m/yr
Burrow, Love, Allen, Lawrence tied: $55m/yr

There are 13 QBs now making more in 2025 than the highest paid QB was making in 2021.

Heck, in 2021 there was only 1 WR making at least $21m/yr. Now there's 19.

MaHommes is severely underpaid. Yet, he has not demanded a new contract and chooses to honor his current contract.

[c766]

The absolute most I would offer Trey would be 3 years 70M, with 60 guaranteed.  

That would cover 2025, 26 and 27.   He gets a 7.3M raise this year, and gets 23M/year for age 32/33 seasons.

If he was 27, and coming off back to back 17+ sack seasons, it would be a whole new conversation.  But, hes 30

Or, he can spend his age 31/32 seasons, sit out a year, lose 16m, and then take a worse contract in 2026 (Or get franchised) 

[J24]

(06-03-2025, 07:54 AM)Sled21 Wrote: You completely missed the part where he asks for a new deal every year.

It's irrelevant to this season. He is due for a Contract extension and asking for a contract extension on the final year of his deal is NFL norm!

Did him asking for a new contract effect the team last season or his play? If it didn't then why should  I care?  Do you want the Bengals to win or do you want Ownership to win petty negotiations?

[c766]

(06-03-2025, 11:24 AM)J24 Wrote: It's irrelevant to this season. He is due for a Contract extension and asking for a contract extension on the final year of his deal is NFL norm!

Did him asking for a new contract effect the team last season or his play? If it didn't then why should  I care?  Do you want the Bengals to win or do you want Ownership to win petty negotiations?

Do you want the benagls to overpay age 30+ players just beucase they want more money? 

If they gave Trey 30M a year, that will hurt the team eventually 

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-03-2025, 10:29 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: MaHommes is severely underpaid. Yet, he has not demanded a new contract and chooses to honor his current contract.

No he's not severely underpaid. He has the highest total contract in terms of value in NFL history. It's just structured and restructured to be less of a burden on the salary cap. 

[*jason*]

(06-03-2025, 11:38 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: No he's not severely underpaid. He has the highest total contract in terms of value in NFL history. It's just structured and restructured to be less of a burden on the salary cap. 

Like they have a savvy and competent front office?