Trey Hendrickson Update

[XsandOs]

(06-03-2025, 06:20 PM)Joelist Wrote: Let's remember that the team has already paid out over 160 million in cash into escrow this offseason. If Trey is looking for bigger guarantees there may not be sufficient cash available to cover the guarantee in escrow. Maybe he would be better served taking the 28 million deal or possibly a variant on it that has a guarantee that activates next season when there is more available cash.

All this makes sense, but the issue is PRIDE, I think.

He was the highest paid Bengal before Burrow signed his deal. Now he is fourth/fifth?

The line from Pulp Fiction comes to mind. 

[*bfine32*]

We've recently seen a similar dynamic play out with Mike Hilton, about 2-years ago he was our best CB

[c766]

In his first 3 nfl seasons. Age 23-25. Trey had 6 total sacks.

Then at age 26, last in bayou, he broke out.

He’s not Garrett or watt or watt or Crosby.

He’s been paid well by the bengals. And if he’s reasonable he’ll get 50-65 mil more over the next 3 years.

[Luvnit2]

(06-03-2025, 07:25 PM)c766 Wrote: In his first 3 nfl seasons.  Age 23-25. Trey had 6 total sacks.

Then at age 26, last in bayou, he broke out.  

He’s not Garrett or watt or watt or Crosby.  

He’s been paid well by the bengals. And if he’s reasonable he’ll get 50-65 mil more over the next 3 years.

If you read some of our fans, it is impossible for any player to break out after 3 years.

Who knows maybe Murphy and Ossai can be a lot better. Maybe Volson can become better.

As far as his start, it cost him money already. I do think he deserves a nice raise in 2025 and an incentive laden contract in 2026 and 2027. The probem appears he wants more than the FO is willing to pay and guarantee. 

I think if he believes in himself, he could get 70 to 90 million minimum, but only 50% guaranteed, the rest based on him staying on the field and sacking the QB a lot. I have posted ways to strcture a contract that helps remove the risk from the Bengals while giving him the potential to earn 30 million a year for the next 3 years.

[c766]

First 3 years in NFL. Crosby had 25 sacks - and was able to sign a 99 mill contract in 2022 at age 25 (And another big contract 2 years later at age 27)

Myles Garrett had 30 sacks in his first 3 years, Signed a 5 year 125 mill deal at age 25

Trey did not produce in his first 3 seasons. Sorry, but he is not on their level. He will make over 100 million in the NFL - would have been closer to 160 mill if he actually produced in his first 3 seasons. Oh well, thats not the bengals fault. They are the ones that actually paid him his bulk

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-03-2025, 10:55 PM)c766 Wrote: First 3 years in NFL.  Crosby had 25 sacks  - and was able to sign a 99 mill contract in 2022 at age 25 (And another big contract 2 years later at age 27)

Myles Garrett had 30 sacks in his first 3 years,  Signed a 5 year 125 mill deal at age 25

Trey did not produce in his first 3 seasons.   Sorry, but he is not on their level.   He will make over 100 million in the NFL -  would have been closer to 160 mill if he actually produced in his first 3 seasons.  Oh well, thats not the bengals fault.   They are the ones that actually paid him his bulk

Who cares what they did in their first 3 years. It has no bearing on anything but a made up comparison for you. 

Zero relevance.

Something that actually is relevant to today. In the most recent FIVE nfl seasons, Trey has the 2nd most sacks, 1.5 behind Miles Garrett. He has 16 more sacks than Watt, 21 more sacks than Crosby, 25.5 more sacks than Hunter and 27.5 more sacks than Nick Bosa.

A ridiculous manufactured 'stat' like "first 3 years", when those first 3 years were 6, 7 and 8 years ago is mind-numbingly absurd.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(06-03-2025, 10:55 PM)c766 Wrote: First 3 years in NFL.  Crosby had 25 sacks  - and was able to sign a 99 mill contract in 2022 at age 25 (And another big contract 2 years later at age 27)

Myles Garrett had 30 sacks in his first 3 years,  Signed a 5 year 125 mill deal at age 25

Trey did not produce in his first 3 seasons.   Sorry, but he is not on their level.   He will make over 100 million in the NFL -  would have been closer to 160 mill if he actually produced in his first 3 seasons.  Oh well, thats not the bengals fault.   They are the ones that actually paid him his bulk

He also was not a DE those 1st 3 years, but an OLB.

Every since they had him putting his hand in the dirt, he's been fantastic. He has been excellent every year at DE. Period. 

He created 26.5 sacks last year, no one else had more than 15. It wasn't close. 

Now, he leaves something to be desired vs the run. Not on a level with Garrett or Watt or Crosby there. But he was THE best pass rusher in the league last year, and it was not particularly close. Sacks created, pressures, pressure rate, time to first pressure, sacks. He was top 3 in all those categories, I believe. 

He at leastcdeserves the deal Hunter got ($35 mil). They are the same age. If we want to come in ubder that, then give him more years & guaranrees to make up for it. 

Hendrickson is an elite player. He is waycabove any level Hilton has ever hit.

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 01:45 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: He also was not a DE those 1st 3 years, but an OLB.

Every since they had him putting his hand in the dirt, he's been fantastic. He has been excellent every year at DE. Period. 

He created 26.5 sacks last year, no one else had more than 15. It wasn't close. 

Now, he leaves something to be desired vs the run. Not on a level with Garrett or Watt or Crosby there. But he was THE best pass rusher in the league last year, and it was not particularly close. Sacks created, pressures, pressure rate, time to first pressure, sacks. He was top 3 in all those categories, I believe. 

He at leastcdeserves the deal Hunter got ($35 mil). They are the same age. If we want to come in ubder that, then give him more years & guaranrees to make up for it. 

Hendrickson is an elite player. He is waycabove any level Hilton has ever hit.

On the other hand, if Hubbard or someone else could have occasionally gotten to the QB, Trey wouldn't have all those sacks. 

[*Synric*]

(06-03-2025, 10:55 PM)c766 Wrote: First 3 years in NFL.  Crosby had 25 sacks  - and was able to sign a 99 mill contract in 2022 at age 25 (And another big contract 2 years later at age 27)

Myles Garrett had 30 sacks in his first 3 years,  Signed a 5 year 125 mill deal at age 25

Trey did not produce in his first 3 seasons.   Sorry, but he is not on their level.   He will make over 100 million in the NFL -  would have been closer to 160 mill if he actually produced in his first 3 seasons.  Oh well, thats not the bengals fault.   They are the ones that actually paid him his bulk

Trey Hendrickson dealt with injuries his first two seasons knee, neck, and ankle I believe. He was also in a rotation behind Cam Jordan and Marcus Davenport. 

Box score scouting doesn't get you very far btw.

[c766]

(Yesterday, 08:18 AM)Synric Wrote: Trey Hendrickson dealt with injuries his first two seasons knee, neck, and ankle I believe. He was also in a rotation behind Cam Jordan and Marcus Davenport. 

Box score scouting doesn't get you very far btw.

Again, who cares.   He is not on the same level as Watt and Crosby and Garrett. 

The Bengals are not going to just give him a 100M contract at age 30, because he missed out on one when he was 26. 

The Bengals gave him a 60m dollar contract that he happily signed in 2021.  And another 21M  less than 2 year's ago for this year (2025). 
 
The real problem is he is upset he signed the extension 23 months ago, and wants his 100M deal...but the bengals will not, and should not give it to him.

They own his NFL playing time in 2025 and 2026.  

[ERIC1]

(Yesterday, 01:38 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Who cares what they did in their first 3 years. It has no bearing on anything but a made up comparison for you. 

Zero relevance.

Something that actually is relevant to today. In the most recent FIVE nfl seasons, Trey has the 2nd most sacks, 1.5 behind Miles Garrett. He has 16 more sacks than Watt, 21 more sacks than Crosby, 25.5 more sacks than Hunter and 27.5 more sacks than Nick Bosa.

A ridiculous manufactured 'stat' like "first 3 years", when those first 3 years were 6, 7 and 8 years ago is mind-numbingly absurd.

Its obviouus the bengals and other nfl teams dont feel trey is worth an exhorbitant salary hendrickson is a one trick pony...he has a couple of good games with some sacks and then disappears in other games whilst hes having a highschool wrestling match all day long with an opposing offensive tackle..not helping the defense at all

[Goalpost]

Total playoff victories last year amid Hendrickson, Watt, Garrett, Crosby, and Parsons.....zero.

[NUGDUKWE]

(Yesterday, 10:32 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: Its obviouus the bengals and other nfl teams dont feel trey is worth an exhorbitant salary  hendrickson is a one trick pony...he has a couple of good games with some sacks and then disappears in other games whilst hes having a highschool wrestling match all day long with an opposing offensive tackle..not helping the defense at all

I feel like you don't actually watch Bengals games. Seems very seldom that Trey would seem to dissappear. A statistic site even suggesting you created 26.5 sacks for your team seems to point that you were pretty relevant often.

[*rfaulk34*]

It's as simple as this.

If you support the Bengals front office...in pretty much anything...but specifically in contract negotiations--with the long history they have of being cheap--and this cannot be disputed in the least, over a player like Trey who has gone out and busted his ass to get the QB on the ground, and who has actually produced very good numbers in this regard, you need to have your head examined because you're not very smart. 

Straight up. You're not very smart. 

One side swindles and pinches and cheaps out on everything player realted--one guy goes out and does his job and you choose the cheapskates. 

Honestly, i don't give two shits what the numbers are Trey is looking for. If it comes down to FO or Player, i'm picking player every time because i'm smart enough to look at this organization's history and see mountains of evidence that they're just not very good at building a championship team but they're experts at making money. 

But you keep doing you and working hard at getting that Fan of the Year nomination. 

[BFritz21]

(06-03-2025, 06:53 PM)XsandOs Wrote: All this makes sense, but the issue is PRIDE, I think.

He was the highest paid Bengal before Burrow signed his deal. Now he is fourth/fifth?

The line from Pulp Fiction comes to mind. 

Took me a minute to realize what line you meant ( ), but you're absolutely right because he could end up with a hell of a lot less than he was offered by us.

He needs to realize that no other team is going to offer him this kind of money, especially at age 30, so he needs to put pride aside and realize that this is still a lot of money, even if it hurts his pride that it's not as much as he thinks he's worth.

I have been seeing some new trade rumors like to the Colts and Seahawks, which it might not be the first rounder that we asked for, but I heard a 2nd and a high rounder in 2027, so we'd be saving ourselves the headache and financial burden, while getting some value for him.

[*Nately120*]

(Yesterday, 09:52 AM)c766 Wrote: Again, who cares.   He is not on the same level as Watt and Crosby and Garrett. 

The Bengals are not going to just give him a 100M contract at age 30, because he missed out on one when he was 26. 

The Bengals gave him a 60m dollar contract that he happily signed in 2021.  And another 21M  less than 2 year's ago for this year (2025). 
 
The real problem is he is upset he signed the extension 23 months ago, and wants his 100M deal...but the bengals will not, and should not give it to him.

They own his NFL playing time in 2025 and 2026.  

We should trade him to the Browns for a 7th round pick, just so we can hope they're dumb enough give him a stupid long term deal. 

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(Yesterday, 10:51 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I feel like you don't actually watch Bengals games. Seems very seldom that Trey would seem to dissappear. A statistic site even suggesting you created 26.5 sacks for your team seems to point that you were pretty relevant often.

I think this may stem from '22, where he had no sacks going into week 3, got 2.5 or 3 against the Jets, then the final 14 games got only 6.

That was the only time Trey, "disappeared," for long stretches and he was still incredibly-effective even without the sack totals.

[coachmcneil71]

(Yesterday, 10:55 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: It's as simple as this.

If you support the Bengals front office...in pretty much anything...but specifically in contract negotiations--with the long history they have of being cheap--and this cannot be disputed in the least, over a player like Trey who has gone out and busted his ass to get the QB on the ground, and who has actually produced very good numbers in this regard, you need to have your head examined because you're not very smart. 

Straight up. You're not very smart. 

One side swindles and pinches and cheaps out on everything player realted--one guy goes out and does his job and you choose the cheapskates. 

Honestly, i don't give two shits what the numbers are Trey is looking for. If it comes down to FO or Player, i'm picking player every time because i'm smart enough to look at this organization's history and see mountains of evidence that they're just not very good at building a championship team but they're experts at making money. 

But you keep doing you and working hard at getting that Fan of the Year nomination. 

A whole lot of this! Teams pay and draft well to win.  Rams and Eagles are prime examples. Eagles won a SB in 2018, rebuilt and reloaded. The newly built team won SB last season. Rams went all in and won another SB. They had to rebuild. Guess what, they're rebuilt! 

Our organization wanders through the desert like Moses. Every 20 years or so they manage to part the waters just long enough to get halfway across and have it all fall back in on them.

The NFL sack leader deserves to be paid as such, and for those suggesting that we trade him inside of the division, please get your head examined. 

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Yesterday, 10:48 AM)Goalpost Wrote: Total playoff victories last year amid Hendrickson, Watt, Garrett, Crosby, and Parsons.....zero.

Total playoff victories last year amid Chase, Jefferson, Thomas Jr, London, St Brown, Jeudy, Nabers, Bowers, Lamb, McConkey (the entire NFL Top-10 in receiving yards).... zero.

Yet the Bengals still gave $40.25m/yr and $28.75m/yr to their #1 and #2 WRs.

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 10:55 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: It's as simple as this.

If you support the Bengals front office...in pretty much anything...but specifically in contract negotiations--with the long history they have of being cheap--and this cannot be disputed in the least, over a player like Trey who has gone out and busted his ass to get the QB on the ground, and who has actually produced very good numbers in this regard, you need to have your head examined because you're not very smart. 

Straight up. You're not very smart. 

One side swindles and pinches and cheaps out on everything player realted--one guy goes out and does his job and you choose the cheapskates. 

Honestly, i don't give two shits what the numbers are Trey is looking for. If it comes down to FO or Player, i'm picking player every time because i'm smart enough to look at this organization's history and see mountains of evidence that they're just not very good at building a championship team but they're experts at making money. 

But you keep doing you and working hard at getting that Fan of the Year nomination. 

It's as simple as this.

If Trey had signed his contract and was in the last year of it, and was asking now for more money, that would be one thing. But, he signed his 60 million-dollar deal, then wasn't happy with it, so he wanted an extension and a raise. The Bengals gave it to him. Then he decided he wasn't happy with that, and requested another deal, even though he wasn't even eligible. Now he wants yet another deal. The Bengals offered him a 12 million dollar raise they did not have to, and he told them to "F" themselves, he wasn't playing. Just because you don't like the way the front office does business, that doesn't mean the player automatically right. His history says he's never going to be happy unless he's making Miles Garrett money, and unfortunately for him he's on the back end of 30 and is not going to get another huge deal anywhere. He made his bed. He wants a King Size bed and his agent got him a Queen size. He should be mad at his agent. At this point he has gone from one of my favorite players to a player I'm sick of hearing about. And with the Bengals luck, if they did something stupid like giving him 35 million per on a multi-year deal with guarantees, he'd come up hurt.