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Trey Hendrickson Update
(Yesterday, 05:52 PM)XsandOs Wrote: It is hard to reconcile the Stewart pick and still signing Trey to a long-term deal.

If we trade him, I would want Cosmi from Commanders.

If it did come down to that, a player for player trade, that would be an awesome swap. The Bengals could get Cosmi for 4 years and be responsible for $51M of his contract. As a bonus, Cosmi has only committed 4 holding penalties in 4 seasons, has experience at both RT and RG. It would definitely put the pressure on the team to rectify the Stewart contract language and hope and pray that Ossai and Murphy show up to play this year.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have Trey paid, happy and smashing QBs en route to a Bengals Superbowl Championship. But if there is just no reaching of an agreement between him and the team, a trade for a guy like Cosmi would be a soft landing.
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(Yesterday, 07:03 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If it did come down to that, a player for player trade, that would be an awesome swap. The Bengals could get Cosmi for 4 years and be responsible for $51M of his contract. As a bonus, Cosmi has only committed 4 holding penalties in 4 seasons, has experience at both RT and RG. It would definitely put the pressure on the team to rectify the Stewart contract language and hope and pray that Ossai and Murphy show up to play this year.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have Trey paid, happy and smashing QBs en route to a Bengals Superbowl Championship. But if there is just no reaching of an agreement between him and the team, a trade for a guy like Cosmi would be a soft landing.

Yeah, I would feel better about it if we got a player like Cosmi that is for sure. Still wouldn't be entirely happy losing Trey.
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(Yesterday, 07:03 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If it did come down to that, a player for player trade, that would be an awesome swap. The Bengals could get Cosmi for 4 years and be responsible for $51M of his contract. As a bonus, Cosmi has only committed 4 holding penalties in 4 seasons, has experience at both RT and RG. It would definitely put the pressure on the team to rectify the Stewart contract language and hope and pray that Ossai and Murphy show up to play this year.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have Trey paid, happy and smashing QBs en route to a Bengals Superbowl Championship. But if there is just no reaching of an agreement between him and the team, a trade for a guy like Cosmi would be a soft landing.

I completely agree that I would rather have Trey as a Bengal. That is the first choice. But Sunset; if/when that happens, I don't feel either side would be happy with the contract - and that is ok. To me, that would mean value for both. 

But if he is traded, Cosmi is the guy I want. If he is signed, I want Scherff.

All the garbage that is written about trading Trey for second round picks next year (which would have been a 3rd round pick this year), Jerzan Newton, etc. is paid talking heads propagating the agenda of other owners. 

With Jesse Bates, Tee and now Trey - it seems that every season we are in some type of internal struggle. 
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(Yesterday, 09:32 PM)XsandOs Wrote: I completely agree that I would rather have Trey as a Bengal. That is the first choice. But Sunset; if/when that happens, I don't feel either side would be happy with the contract - and that is ok. To me, that would mean value for both. 

But if he is traded, Cosmi is the guy I want. If he is signed, I want Scherff.

All the garbage that is written about trading Trey for second round picks next year (which would have been a 3rd round pick this year), Jerzan Newton, etc. is paid talking heads propagating the agenda of other owners. 

With Jesse Bates, Tee and now Trey - it seems that every season we are in some type of internal struggle. 

You are completely justified in your feelings as a fan. The Bengals if their trading Trey Hendrickson, is worthy of an equal or near equal player in return. Who cares about draft picks, might as well be lottery tickets..
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(Yesterday, 09:13 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, I would feel better about it if we got a player like Cosmi that is for sure. Still wouldn't be entirely happy losing Trey.

Nate; I don't think any Bengal fan would have even imagined after the season that we would be in this situation with Trey. Or fathom the idea that we would be even discussing trading him.

But the seemingly never ending saga keeps recurring. 

Lets hope it all ends well.
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(Yesterday, 09:35 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You are completely justified in your feelings as a fan. The Bengals if their trading Trey Hendrickson, is worthy of an equal or near equal player in return. Who cares about draft picks, might as well be lottery tickets..

And the most ridiculous aspect of a 2026 draft pick is that it is a depreciating asset. It is analogous to paying for a lottery ticket for a drawing 12 months from now. The business from which you are buying the ticket, gets to use and enjoy your funds now, but you have to wait an entire year to possibly get a return on your investment.
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(Yesterday, 09:35 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You are completely justified in your feelings as a fan. The Bengals if their trading Trey Hendrickson, is worthy of an equal or near equal player in return. Who cares about draft picks, might as well be lottery tickets..

Yep.  If you let him go at this point, you're risking flushing the 3rd straight year of Joe Burrow down the crapper.  Those years are starting to pile up.  If they flat out knew they weren't going to give him raise, and also knew that he was going to get demonstrative about it, then he should have been moved before the draft.  Let him go now and you're looking at a candidate for bottom five defense in the league.  Totally unacceptable.
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(Yesterday, 10:02 PM)samhain Wrote: Yep.  If you let him go at this point, you're risking flushing the 3rd straight year of Joe Burrow down the crapper.  Those years are starting to pile up.  If they flat out knew they weren't going to give him raise, and also knew that he was going to get demonstrative about it, then he should have been moved before the draft.  Let him go now and you're looking at a candidate for bottom five defense in the league.  Totally unacceptable.

we have alot of changes on defense coming so lets see what happens with the defense but in the end, we loaded up on offense, Burrow has the best offense in his tenure and is now a veteran, we should be very competitive even with a subpar defense.  What we need with our without Tre is a 2-0 start for first time under Burrow and Taylor careers. 
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(Yesterday, 10:02 PM)samhain Wrote: Yep.  If you let him go at this point, you're risking flushing the 3rd straight year of Joe Burrow down the crapper.  Those years are starting to pile up.  If they flat out knew they weren't going to give him raise, and also knew that he was going to get demonstrative about it, then he should have been moved before the draft.  Let him go now and you're looking at a candidate for bottom five defense in the league.  Totally unacceptable.

But they did offer him a raise. A 12-million-dollar raise. 
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(Yesterday, 09:44 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Nate; I don't think any Bengal fan would have even imagined after the season that we would be in this situation with Trey. Or fathom the idea that we would be even discussing trading him.

But the seemingly never ending saga keeps recurring. 

Lets hope it all ends well.

Well I thought we would lose one of Tee or Trey and thought it was going to be Tee before we extended him. Obviously it wasn't Tee and 
I thought maybe a Trey extension on top of the other 2 might be a little too rich for the FO's blood after he turned down their initial offer.

In the end, as long as the team is all in before the season I am happy. Just hope Trey is happy as well and if not, a Cosmi trade would be
something that would make us all feel better if there is a bright side. Ja'Marr was the one guy we couldn't afford to lose as I do think with
Ossai and Stewart we have some pass rush if the DT's really grow. 

Trey is getting older and he isn't going to lead the league in sacks again IMO. I think he should of taken the initial offer before Tee got his.

Still stand by Trey's agent being the biggest problem here. This dude has made gaff after gaff the last few years, not a coincidence things
are still stagnant in this saga to me. Tee fired his old agent, hired Ja'Marr's and a deal got done, also not a coincidence.
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Each time I click on this thread I keep thinking there is an actual update. Yawn
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(2 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Each time I click on this thread I keep thinking there is an actual update. Yawn

It could really use a title change tbh.
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(2 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Still stand by Trey's agent being the biggest problem here. This dude has made gaff after gaff the last few years, not a coincidence things
are still stagnant in this saga to me. Tee fired his old agent, hired Ja'Marr's and a deal got done, also not a coincidence.

I'm not sure it's his agent. Tee got rid of his agent because he wouldn't bend just because Tee wanted to be here he still wanted to hold the Bengals to what the rest of the league is doing. Treys agent seems to be on the opposite end of the spectrum and is will to take less guarantees and 1 year extensions ( I pressume at the guidance of Trey to some extent ).
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