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Trey Hendrickson Update
#21
(Yesterday, 02:10 PM)J24 Wrote: We would have gotten more than a third for him!

Maybe a third and a fifth?

But the point is that they didn’t get offered anything worth trading the NFL sack leader for. Teams may have been willing to pay him but they weren’t willing to trade much for him.
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#22
(Yesterday, 02:22 PM)BigRed75 Wrote: Age

Exactly. 

He'll be 31 in December, so I say let him seek a trade and see what kind of contract another team offers, on top of the trade compensation.

I'd offer him a deal with incentives. 

Or maybe they're just waiting to get all the picks signed and to see if he have any other big needs.

I'm just nervous about offering a guy big money long-term when he'll be 31 when the contract starts.
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(Yesterday, 01:57 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I've mentioned this before but it's truly funny how they won't pay him a premium but they'll ask for a premium because that's...what they think he's worth (in return)... 

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That's what's baffling! Want to pay him like an average Joe, but ask a kings ransom for him. So which is it Bengals staff? Is he top tier or not?
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#24
It is true, they are trying to get the Draft picks signed. But still, need to communicate with the man.

We also heard that they offered him 32 mil per year which is plenty of money for his age. I will judge if a deal doesn't get done.

I just don't like hearing from Trey that there has been no communication. But we also cannot forget that his agent asked for him to be traded
or extended when it was impossible at the time. If I was Trey I would get a new agent like Tee did.
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(Yesterday, 02:50 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: We also heard that they offered him 32 mil per year

Do you have a link please?
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#26
(Yesterday, 01:26 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Trey Hendrickson statement today to ESPN: “No communication has taken place between my camp and the organization post draft. The offers prior to the draft did not reflect the vision we shared and were promised last offseason if I continued to play at a high level. Coaches are aware of these past conversations. Rather than using collaboration to get us to a point to bring me home to the team, THEY are no longer communicating. I have been eagerly awaiting a resolution of this situation, but that’s hard to do when there is no discussion and an evident lack of interest in reaching mutual goals.”

(Yesterday, 01:35 PM)J24 Wrote: The Blackburns are a cancer to winning football!

(Yesterday, 01:41 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I'm just waiting for a rebuttal to what a penny-pinching, shitty FO they are. 

InB4"two sides" lulz

(Yesterday, 01:46 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: If true, and I tend to believe him as he isn’t the only one to complain about the lack of communication from the front office, it really makes me wonder about their desire to extend him.  It sounds like they presented their final (?) to him and it’s take it or leave it.  I would like to know what his expectations are and what they offered him.  I think he absolutely deserves a raise.  I don’t think he should expect Garrett or Crosby money

(Yesterday, 01:59 PM)PhilHos Wrote: As much as I can't stand the way our front office works, I don't know if I can blame them for the lack of communication here. If they're not willing to budge and they hold the advantage in this situation, what conversation is there to have? Asking Trey if he's changed his stance on the money and Trey says no then what communication is there to have? If it's me, I'm willing to budge, but then again, I'm also hiring a GM like decades ago

(Yesterday, 02:02 PM)Joelist Wrote: Just remember, this is from Schefter and he hasn't got the best track record for accuracy. He missed the Chase and Higgins extensions.

(Yesterday, 02:10 PM)PhilHos Wrote: OP literally states: "Trey Hendrickson statement today to ESPN:

Are you saying that this isn't an actual statement sent to ESPN from Trey or his agent?


Ian Rappaport:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2025/05/08/bengals-trey-hendrickson-have-communicated-since-nfl-draft-ian-rapoport/83526324007/

Someone's lying.
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(Yesterday, 02:53 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: Do you have a link please?

I don't, but that was what was reported.
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(Yesterday, 01:26 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Trey Hendrickson statement today to ESPN: “No communication has taken place between my camp and the organization post draft. The offers prior to the draft did not reflect the vision we shared and were promised last offseason if I continued to play at a high level. Coaches are aware of these past conversations. Rather than using collaboration to get us to a point to bring me home to the team, THEY are no longer communicating. I have been eagerly awaiting a resolution of this situation, but that’s hard to do when there is no discussion and an evident lack of interest in reaching mutual goals.”

I will start by saying it is disappointing the FO is taking what appears to be a hard stance. The only positive was he says he was offered an extension, he just did not like the offer. In my opinion, no offer would have upset me more.

It appears to me the Bengals made the offer, Trey refused so now they are at a stare off.

I hope they can work our a reasonable deal, not knowing the offer we can guess, but no way to know if the offerwas fair.
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(Yesterday, 02:56 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I will start by saying it is disappointing the FO is taking what appears to be a hard stance. The only positive was he says he was offered an extension, he just did not like the offer. In my opinion, no offer would have upset me more.

It appears to me the Bengals made the offer, Trey refused so now they are at a stare off.

I hope they can work our a reasonable deal, not knowing the offer we can guess, but no way to know if the offerwas fair.

Yes, we don't know the details, only what has been reported and as Truck shows, someone is lying here....
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#30
(Yesterday, 02:53 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: Do you have a link please?

Best I'm aware of is that it was an unconfirmed rumor:

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/3/7/24380548/bengals-trey-hendrickson-contract-offer

Quote:According to WLWT’s Mike Dardis, the Bengals offered Hendrickson a deal in the neighborhood of $30-32 million annually, but this is unconfirmed, so take it with a grain of salt for the time being.

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(Yesterday, 02:50 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: It is true, they are trying to get the Draft picks signed. But still, need to communicate with the man.

We also heard that they offered him 32 mil per year which is plenty of money for his age. I will judge if a deal doesn't get done.

I just don't like hearing from Trey that there has been no communication
. But we also cannot forget that his agent asked for him to be traded
or extended when it was impossible at the time. If I was Trey I would get a new agent like Tee did.

I wish it was not true either, but this is fairly normal in negotiations. Trey said he got an offer (have no idea how fair it was) which is the good news. It is very common for someone to make a final offer and then stop communications. 
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(Yesterday, 03:00 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I wish it was not true either, but this is fairly normal in negotiations. Trey said he got an offer (have no idea how fair it was) which is the good news. It is very common for someone to make a final offer and then stop communications. 

True.
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#33
(Yesterday, 02:35 PM)3wt Wrote: I mean I really don't have any legitimate knowledge about these things, and who knows what the truth is here or the source.

But the Bengals have an apparent record of non-communication, and there the only way we will benefit from our draft strategy is if Trey is playing.

The overarching look is a parsimonious team that cares little for the players that have earned the right to ask what is generally the going rate for top notch players.  Whatever he's asking for is apparently going to be less than the top paid defensive players.

We seem to dawdle around till things are critical and people are pissed off - or till they have become significantly more expensive than they were when they originally asked for the money that is typical for their level of performance.

I can't think of a significantly beneficial reason other than keeping their money in escrow a little longer to squeeze as much money possible till they have to withdraw.

But if you want the guy you communicate with him.   And there is no scenario where letting him go and getting some sort of risky draft pick makes any sense.

If they're going to take their time, it just takes a phone call to let him know what's going on.


They are just so arrogant and frustrating.

I kind of get the Bengals side somewhat. That said, I'd pay Trey more.

You can't pay every player that has a great year more money. You just can't. That's what contract incentives and escalators are for.

That said, I think Trey is an exception. He's had 17.5 sacks each of the past 2 years.

The thing is, how many more years can you expect him to play at that level? He's 31 next year. Is he at his peak for 2/3 more years? Or will he decline. It's a risky bet.

Fans are kind of acting like he'll get 17.5 sacks each of the next 3 years. But, if you pay him $35 million a year and he drops down to 8 sacks, then it's a vast overpay.
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#34
(Yesterday, 02:11 PM)J24 Wrote: He lead the NFL in pressures and Sacks last season; So why shouldn't he expect that type of money?

As a couple of posters have referenced, his age for one.  2, his run defense grade is not as high as theirs is.  
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(Yesterday, 01:46 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: If true, and I tend to believe him as he isn’t the only one to complain about the lack of communication from the front office, it really makes me wonder about their desire to extend him. It sounds like they presented their final (?) to him and it’s take it or leave it. I would like to know what his expectations are and what they offered him. I think he absolutely deserves a raise. I don’t think he should expect Garrett or Crosby money

Something has to give. The FO can’t have it both ways. He’s either too valuable to lose or he’s not. I think pretty much everyone can agree he’s worth it. I think he proved his worth this past season. Pay the man already.
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#36
(Yesterday, 02:16 PM)J24 Wrote: I think it's a pretty safe bet to say it's over guranteed money!

You mean like other guaranteed contracts that were given and now biting teams in the ass.
Tucker
Watson
Carr

He is 31 years old so any smart organization has to factor in his age for the guaranteed portion. Tee is young and ws not given great guarantees per say versus Chase.
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(Yesterday, 02:59 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: Best I'm aware of is that it was an unconfirmed rumor:

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/3/7/24380548/bengals-trey-hendrickson-contract-offer

Without knowing the guaranteed money, the APY amount is irrelevant.  It's similar to last year during the Chase negotiations when it was reported the Cockburns were offering $40m+ per year but then it came out the guaranteed portion was only a Toyota Corolla or something like that.  
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(Yesterday, 03:06 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I kind of get the Bengals side somewhat. That said, I'd pay Trey more.

You can't pay every player that has a great year more money. You just can't. That's what contract incentives and escalators are for.

That said, I think Trey is an exception. He's had 17.5 sacks each of the past 2 years.

The thing is, how many more years can you expect him to play at that level? He's 31 next year. Is he at his peak for 2/3 more years? Or will he decline. It's a risky bet.

Fans are kind of acting like he'll get 17.5 sacks each of the next 3 years. But, if you pay him $35 million a year and he drops down to 8 sacks, then it's a vast overpay.

I agree and Trey stated they did offer him a new contract, I assume it was for more, but he chose to say no to possibly a final offer from the FO..

Negotiations are messy, every team goes through it.

Watt wants an extension as well, maybe team wants to see how Steeler's handle his contract.
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(Yesterday, 03:10 PM)Southpaw Frerotte Wrote: Without knowing the guaranteed money, the APY amount is irrelevant.  It's similar to last year during the Chase negotiations when it was reported the Cockburns were offering $40m+ per year but then it came out the guaranteed portion was only a Toyota Corolla or something like that.  

Okay but I was just replying to the person asking for a link to the source of what he might have been offered.  :)

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In any event, if he is a threat to holdout even a few games we should now consider Clowney as insurance.
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