Will Trey skip mandatory practices next week?

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-10-2025, 01:55 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: What haul of cheaper player could Bengals have received for Chase? So, yes it is a very valid point. Bengals could have got mor for Chase than Chiefs got and then also would not have had to pay his massive contract. Last time I checked, our QB smoked Mahommes so we too have a very great QB, some would say better the PM.

Were the Chiefs cheap is not a valid question because their way produced 2 more super bowls. 

I don't know--and i doubt--the Bengals could have received the same compensation that the Chiefs did, with the same results. My doubt is validated by the Bengals MO in the last 3 decades. 

Burrow is geat and capable of winning a championship, but he can't do it 'on his own'. Mahomes is the greatest finisher in NFL history and he's done things at the end of games, consistently, that Burrow has not shown yet. So while he's better in some regards, he's not better at being able to win rings yet. 

[Luvnit2]

(06-10-2025, 01:58 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The front office constructed a team that was so bad, they got the #1OA pick in 2020 and the #5OA pick in 2021. Those 2 guys were the main reason the team made the SB and AFCCG. Part of the reason they didn't finish the job was because they cheaped out on the offensive line and that broke down in the most crucial moments in '21 and '22. 

The one thing the front office did well for those teams was to sign some key free agents on the defensive side. 

I can't make you see the truth, i can only alert you to it and then it's on you. 

LOL

I just posted their reaction and boom, there it is slighting the FO for fielding a winner.

[RunKijanaRun]

(06-10-2025, 12:19 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Do you just willfully ignore the front office ineptitude and cheapness over the last 34 years? Oh, wait. You haven't been a Bengals fan that long. Now it makes sense. So, you'd have no idea that even back in the '70s and '80s, Paul Brown was widely considered cheap when it came to players. 

I don't know why i even bother refuting people with endless example of their boundless shortcomings. People are going to see and believe what they want to see. Fact and evidence be damned. 

That one’s special. You’re better off ignoring him.

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-10-2025, 02:01 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The know it alls have all the answers. It is easy to bash any FO who has not won a Super Bowl. I was in LA and the same FO you mentiond had us within minutes of winning our first Super Bowl. The know it alls would not celebrate it, they would attempt the role the FO played.

FO is an easy target for them since our or any NFL teams odds any year of winning start at Super Bowl at 5% at best. Then when said team does not win it all, they act like they are a genious for saying I told you so.

This entire post is incorrect, for all but maybe 1 or 2 people here. Maybe as many as 5 but they're easy to spot. For the people that give legitimate, verified, observable facts, none of it is true. 

[Goalpost]

I'm hearing the Bengals made an offer to Trey yesterday, after Pratt was sent packing, and Trey rejected it. You would think with Pratt gone, a better offer was made but all is a guess at this point.

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-10-2025, 02:02 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: LOL

I just posted their reaction and boom, there it is slighting the FO for fielding a winner.

Did you read the post? I'm gonna say no. 

Facts, followed by praise of what they did on the defense. 

But you go ahead and continue to see what you want to see. I can't keep arguing with illogical, anecdotal points. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(06-10-2025, 02:02 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: That one’s special. You’re better off ignoring him.

I'm finished, for a while at least. I need to pay a little closer attention to one of the lines in my sig...

[007BengalsFan]

(06-09-2025, 09:24 PM)J24 Wrote: This makes zero sense!

Im not sure why you think it doesnt makes sense.  Trey didnt deserve to be paid more money at the time just 2 years into his first contract. At the time Bengals fans were questioning why the Bengals would do this.  Fortunately for the Bengals, Trey ended up taking a big jump the next two seasons going from 8 sacks when he got the extension to 17.5 so it ultimately worked out to benefit the Bengals.   If Trey's production had fallen the past two years like Hubbards, people would be questioning that decision.  Our fans on this very forum were certainly questioning the extension when it happened.

[007BengalsFan]

(06-10-2025, 12:16 PM)CottonHill Wrote: Why would we give them credit for making Chase the highest paid receiver in the league? Thats not a plus, you try to extend players at a discount, they waited till his value was at its absolute peak to give him an extension...

Our fans, "Sign them early so you get a discount"  Our same fans when they signed Trey early at 21 million for the 2025 season, "He deserves a raise, I support him sitting out for more money"

[J24]

(06-10-2025, 02:44 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Im not sure why you think it doesnt makes sense.  Trey didnt deserve to be paid more money at the time just 2 years into his first contract. At the time Bengals fans were questioning why the Bengals would do this.  Fortunately for the Bengals, Trey ended up taking a big jump the next two seasons going from 8 sacks when he got the extension to 17.5 so it ultimately worked out to benefit the Bengals.   If Trey's production had fallen the past two years like Hubbards, people would be questioning that decision.  Our fans on this very forum were certainly questioning the extension when it happened.

Zero sense!

[ERIC1]

(06-10-2025, 12:16 PM)CottonHill Wrote: Why would we give them credit for making Chase the highest paid receiver in the league? Thats not a plus, you try to extend players at a discount, they waited till his value was at its absolute peak to give him an extension. Same with Tee. Theres a good chance these contracts handcuff us. We basically have to have Chase perform at historical levels for him to be worth his cap space. Same with Tee and we all know his health issues. 

Not to mention, we have 3 offensive guys taking up a ton of cap space, who were on the team last year, and we still couldn't make the playoffs. We got worse this offseason and Pittsburgh and Baltimore got better. 

Lol@ getting worse this offseason...why because we did not draft or get players that you personally like..we replaced coaches that needed replacing and did get..both through the draft and free agency some pretty solid players..its gonna be a good year if burrow stays healthy

[Luvnit2]

(06-10-2025, 02:02 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Were the Chiefs cheap is not a valid question because their way produced 2 more super bowls. 

I don't know--and i doubt--the Bengals could have received the same compensation that the Chiefs did, with the same results. My doubt is validated by the Bengals MO in the last 3 decades. 

Burrow is geat and capable of winning a championship, but he can't do it 'on his own'. Mahomes is the greatest finisher in NFL history and he's done things at the end of games, consistently, that Burrow has not shown yet. So while he's better in some regards, he's not better at being able to win rings yet. 

Your game is obvious, praise other like KC while you dish on our FO. Your game is old and outdated.

Did KC have defenses when they won the Super Bowls? It makes no sense you claiming with certainty our FO could not got more in draft picks and not done well. The same FO who drafted Tee Higgins in round 2 and Wilson in round 3 is the one you love to bash.

Your I am smarter than you posts are also abusive and against the COC. But for some reason, you seem to immine ffrom following the COC.

I will move on, you and I obviously will never see eye to eye. Have a great day.

[ERIC1]

(06-10-2025, 01:06 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I would say yes the Chiefs are a cheaper team. But they are not afraid to use the tools they have to alter the cap when needed. But Bengals are cheap and bad or just refuse to use the tools they have available. 

Bengals are one of the better teams in the nfl the past four years.I am still amazed that capable football fans like you ignore the fact that the last two years we have had a boatload of injuries not only to our starting quarterback but an inordinate amount of players both offensively and defensively..Had KC suffered the same amount of injuries..I doubt very seriously they would have done as well as the bengals have done the past two seasons

[*pally*]

Is Trey Hendrickson's situation a distraction?

Joe Burrow: "Of course." #Bengals @WCPO pic.twitter.com/7yihKGkO2E

— Marshall Kramsky (@marshallkramsky) June 10, 2025

[Luvnit2]

(06-10-2025, 03:18 PM)pally Wrote:

Is Trey Hendrickson's situation a distraction?

Joe Burrow: "Of course." #Bengals @WCPO pic.twitter.com/7yihKGkO2E

— Marshall Kramsky (@marshallkramsky) June 10, 2025

No surprise a player would attempt to help a fellow player.

Steelers, Dolphins x 2, Redskins and other have the same distractions. It is a part of business. Cheifs weathered the Chrs Jones distraction and won a Super Bowl.

[SunsetBengal]

This could all be easily resolved. This article by SI lays out a plan that is fair to both Trey and the Bengals.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/contract-idea-what-cincinnati-bengals-should-offer-star-pass-rusher-trey-hendrickson/ar-AA1GrwXS?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=73ee30e3524c48939389fe4d5b71138e&ei=10

Quote:CINCINNATI — Bengals star pass rusher Trey Hendrickson isn't attending mandatory minicamp this week.

It's the least surprising news of the offseason.

Hendrickson, fresh off of a 17.5 sack season, wants a new contract. The All-Pro pass rusher has made it clear throughout the offseason.

From doing interviews at Super Bowl radio row to surprising everyone and showing up for a Bengals practice last month, the 30-year-old has made it known that he has no intentions on playing on the one-year, $16 million he has left on his contract.

"I want Trey on our football team. He's under contract," Bengals Director of Player Personnel Duke Tobin said in February. "We're looking to we're looking to pay him for what we believe will be really good future years and we see him as not falling off in his career. And, you know, so we're that's why we're actively trying [to pay him]."

Since then, the Bengals have given Hendrickson permission to seek a trade, opted to keep the star pass rusher, but haven't paid him.

So how does this get resolved?

The Bengals should offer Hendrickson a two-year, $76 million extension. He's set to make $16 million in base salary this season. Bump that up to $28 million in salary with a fat signing bonus to sweeten the deal.

Hendrickson would be under contract for two more seasons following the 2025 campaign at $64 million total.

Sound scary for the the Bengals?

It shouldn't. The deal should be structured to give them an easy out after the 2026 season if Hendrickson doesn't continue to play at a high level.

He's 30 years old, but he's also playing the best football of his career. Hendrickson has 35 sacks over the past two seasons, which leads the NFL.

A two-year, $76 million extension gives Hendrickson the money he's seeking and some long-term security, but it also gives the Bengals a chance to get out of the deal before the 2027 campaign.

If he has a great year in 2025 and 2026, then they can keep him around for the final year of his contract.

This is the type of contract that should [and likely would] appease all sides.

Hendrickson gets a raise this season and knows he'll be in Cincinnati for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, the Bengals end the contract headache with their third-best player and can hit the ground running in training camp without any major contract questions.

The Bengals should be in win-now mode. They have plenty of cap space. They have plenty of cash. A win-now team would get a deal done with their top pass rusher.

The clock is ticking. This needs to be done before training camp starts next month.

[Nepa]

(06-10-2025, 10:24 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: tl;dr

Between your use of internet slang like "tl;dr" and "qft" and our UK fans using words like "treacle," I'm feeling both old and culturally deprived. Heck, I thought you were talking about quantum field theory the other day. 

[Luvnit2]

(06-10-2025, 03:45 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: This could all be easily resolved. This article by SI lays out a plan that is fair to both Trey and the Bengals.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/contract-idea-what-cincinnati-bengals-should-offer-star-pass-rusher-trey-hendrickson/ar-AA1GrwXS?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=73ee30e3524c48939389fe4d5b71138e&ei=10

So, it would be 3 years total with no guaranteed money in 2027.

I think that is very fair, but hearing Bengals made Trey another offer yesterday (Bengals trying)  and he refused it appears Trey wants too much still.

I am not sure Trey would accept this deal. 

I still believe the best way forward is the 12 million bonus in 2025 and then heavy incentives without major guarantees in 2026 (some guaranteed but not more than 60%) and no guarantee in 2027 could work. Make the incentives so he can earn even more than the 31 million (15.8 + 3 signing bonus + 12 new signing bonus) in 2025 as well.

Give him an incentive of 500K a sack starting at #15. Ths=is way he gets 17 sack again in 2025, he makes an extra 1.5 million.

[Nepa]

(06-10-2025, 03:12 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Bengals are one of the better teams in the nfl the past four years.I am still amazed that capable football fans like you ignore the fact that the last two years we have had a boatload of injuries not only to our starting quarterback but an inordinate amount of players both offensively and defensively..Had KC suffered the same amount of injuries..I doubt very seriously they would have done as well as the bengals have done the past two seasons

I don't dispute anything you are saying. And for sure when KC was winning the Super Bowl, they were generally rated in the top 10 those years in health. 

But it also made me reflect on the 22 players Detroit placed on IR last year, including quite a few starters, and they still managed to go 15 and 2. And Green Bay won a Super Bowl one year with 6 starters, and 16 players overall, on IR. It just makes me think that the Bengals need to invest heavily in depth, because there will be plenty of injuries again this year. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(06-10-2025, 02:07 PM)Goalpost Wrote: I'm hearing the Bengals made an offer to Trey yesterday, after Pratt was sent packing, and Trey rejected it.  You would think with Pratt gone, a better offer was made but all is a guess at this point.

Good to know they are at least communicating and still making offers. Trey needs to just take the pay raise in my opinion. He is getting 
fined missing mandatories and it is just hurting him and the team. If he wants as much as Crosby it is a bit ridiculous at his age as he will
be 31 this year. He needs to take this into account and just take the raise instead of playing for 16 mil this year or even worse sitting out
which increases his retirement day by day.