Bengals Front Office Needs To Get With It.

[jj22]

(Yesterday, 01:21 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Regardless of the competition..bengals played much better the last third of the season and almost made the playoffs...the hired both a new defensive coordinator..a new OL line coach..and acquired numerous defensive and OL linemen through the draft and FA...just not maybe the players you wanted.

I'm not sure competition can be completely brushed aside in this argument. Competition is worthy of mentioning in this debate. 

[ERIC1]

(9 hours ago)jj22 Wrote: I'm not sure competition can be completely brushed aside in this argument. Competition is worthy of mentioning in this debate. 

For me this circular debate going nowhere is finished...again the team showed energy and was playing better at the end of last year..we have a new defensive coordinator and OL coach..the team focused on both in the offseason...specualtion means nothing...we can have this discussion in october

[jj22]

What's the deal with having to wait to discuss anything until October? No more golf with pappy?

Your free to go and come back in October.

The debate won't be "finished" if you keep replying to folks.

[Essex Johnson]

(Yesterday, 01:11 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Nobody has any edge at this point in time

I agree players can play better or worse than previous years but i don;t agree all players are equal and start with a clean slate each year.. it is fair to compare past performances, normally those hold true for a majoirty of times

[Ell Prez]

(Yesterday, 01:21 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Regardless of the competition..bengals played much better the last third of the season and almost made the playoffs...the hired both a new defensive coordinator..a new OL line coach..and acquired numerous defensive and OL linemen through the draft and FA...just not maybe the players you wanted.

Who they beat is probably the only thing we can measure them against. Adding new coaches is not going to do much. The players still need to play. How did the players play well under Lou and then not? It’s because the players got worse. Simply look at the additions this offseason, you think that’s enough to win a superbowl?

[sandwedge]

(6 hours ago)Ell Prez Wrote: Who they beat is probably the only thing we can measure them against. Adding new coaches is not going to do much. The players still need to play. How did the players play well under Lou and then not? It’s because the players got worse. Simply look at the additions this offseason, you think that’s enough to win a superbowl?

I disagree, they not only changed coaches, but they changed the entire philosophy on defense and on the offensive line. I believe you will see a better OL than what we have seen for quite a few years. Peters is teaching a whole new technique that seems to be more disciplined than Pollack. It might take a few games for it to click but when it does, it's gonna be good times.

[ERIC1]

(6 hours ago)Ell Prez Wrote: Who they beat is probably the only thing we can measure them against. Adding new coaches is not going to do much. The players still need to play. How did the players play well under Lou and then not? It’s because the players got worse. Simply look at the additions this offseason, you think that’s enough to win a superbowl?

You may feel coaching changes are not significant... many would not agree...you may not like the players the team acquired in FA and the draft..many..including myself would not agree...only time will tell

[ERIC1]

(2 hours ago)sandwedge Wrote: I disagree, they not only changed coaches, but they changed the entire philosophy on defense and on the offensive line. I believe you will see a better OL than what we have seen for quite a few years. Peters is teaching a whole new technique that seems to be more disciplined than Pollack. It might take a few games for it to click but when it does, it's gonna be good times.

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