Reds July 2025 Thread

[StoneTheCrow]

(Yesterday, 01:13 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: https://www.mlb.com/reds/news/cincinnati-reds-plans-at-the-trade-deadline


Same as 2023. Heck, same as always. Not going to get any help to actually make a push happen. Just going to sit put and see another .500-ish season while we look at our prospects as if they're all going to turn into superstars.

What’s up with these GD Cincy front offices absolutely loving ONLY the guys they “have in the building”?

[*bengalfan74*]

(Yesterday, 01:13 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: https://www.mlb.com/reds/news/cincinnati-reds-plans-at-the-trade-deadline


Same as 2023. Heck, same as always. Not going to get any help to actually make a push happen. Just going to sit put and see another .500-ish season while we look at our prospects as if they're all going to turn into superstars.

Oh I know, my head tells me I'm dreaming. But my heart keeps on wishing.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

Dude just can't stay healthy....

https://www.mlb.com/reds/news/hunter-greene-s-rehab-assignment-pushed-back

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

(07-06-2025, 10:53 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Yeah, except I never said that. 

Votto hasn't been around for two years now. I think it's time to stop randomly blaming our only future HoFer for other players failures (and even failures is a bit harsh in this instance because Steer with 1 out and runners on 2nd and 3rd is a career .533 hitter with 14 RBI in 15 AB, it's almost like baseball is a game of low success).

Yeah, that's awesome except that's not what I was talking about.

Great numbers by Steer, but he's 0 for 1 with a strikeout looking when facing a pitcher with 9 consecutive quality starts(7 of the 9 with 1 earned run or less) that's just mowed down your team for a few innings and is on the ropes for the first time. Do you know of any pitchers with 9 consecutive quality starts that throw two fastballs in the same place in an at bat? Maybe in an extended at bat with lots of foul balls. And what pitch is better to hit than a fastball down the middle?

Steer did something similar last season in Milwaukee. Brewers leading 3-0 with Megill coming in for the save. He walked Elly on 4 pitches, who immediately stole 2nd. Candelerio then doubled him home on the 2nd pitch. Megill was visibly bothered and Steer took a belt high, grooved fastball. I yelled out "####!!!"(same thing on Saturday) and then told a co-worker who was now peaking in "That pitch might have been their one and only chance to tie it for the rest of this game. Now here comes the splitter and a ground ball to 3rd or short ahead of the runner." It was to Adames at short. Megill was not on his A game and was shaken but Steer was there to do exactly what Megill needed him to do to get through a tough situation


And sorry if my memory of Votto isn't as glorious as yours. I saw a mostly passive hitter that held himself back more than anything else. In 2013, he led the league with a career high in plate appearances with 726. This was his only season with Shin Soo Choo as his leadoff hitter. Choo had a career high OBP and also scored a career high 107 runs. Votto hit .305 but only had 73 RBI. My lasting memory of him is as a career .244 hitter in the post season. 10 for 41, all singles, one RBI on a sac fly. That's the Votto stink. Maybe you saw a leader, all I saw was someone that was usually looking around for someone else to step up. Personally, I don't think that he makes it, but if he does get into the Hall Of Fame, it will be for NOT swinging the bat more than actually swinging it and it sure as Hell won't be for his defense.

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

(Yesterday, 01:31 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Oh I know, my head tells me I'm dreaming. But my heart keeps on wishing.

Not much of a choice.

Who are they going to get that's available?

What/who are they going to give up for a player that will most likely be only slightly better than what's already here?

Not a lot of sellers and most are asking for too much. It sucks but that's the reality.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Yesterday, 09:05 PM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: In 2013, he led the league with a career high in plate appearances with 726. This was his only season with Shin Soo Choo as his leadoff hitter. Choo had a career high OBP and also scored a career high 107 runs. Votto hit .305 but only had 73 RBI.

Another guy who had a career year when he was able to pick the mind of a great hitter like Votto.

That said, funny memory there. It forgot the fact that the Reds #2 hitters that year "produced" .228/.281/.350 while hitting into 21 double plays. The .281 OBP in that slot was the worst in baseball and the 21 GIDP was merely 3rd most. There wasn't even a void in front of him, there was an active negative force there because that was where Dusty put guys to "get them going" when they were terrible offensive players. (And lets not pretend Choo was some kind of blazing speed on the bases that could even semi-reliably score from 2nd on a single.)

And #4 hitters that year to make sure he actually got some pitches, rather than leading the NL in intentional walks for the second straight year like he did, had the 20th highest OPS in baseball. You take a great cut of meat, and then use two pieces of shit on either side for bread, and then blame the meat for tasting like shit.

Just a shame you got to watch a future Hall of Fame player for years and all you got out of it was bitterness and no appreciation of what you got to see.

[Timanky12]

Yea, this is a playoff caliper team. Mistake after mistake, inconsistent hitting.

This team can ill afford to give away runs.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Absolute clown show.

[*bengalfan74*]

Another famous Reds offense on vacation skid. Three L's in a row with a grand total of 1 run each game. Lets hope they snap out of it soon.

[Timanky12]

(8 hours ago)bengalfan74 Wrote: Another famous Reds offense on vacation skid. Three L's in a row with a grand total of 1 run each game. Lets hope they snap out of it soon.

When you say soon, do you mean this decade? 

Because I don’t see this team getting any better any time soon.

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

(Yesterday, 09:42 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Another guy who had a career year when he was able to pick the mind of a great hitter like Votto.

Yeah, I'm sure that's why. Too bad that he forgot everything after leaving and also too bad that those #2 and #4 hitters never took the time to pick his mind. 

So Votto is why Choo was good, but poor Joey was drug down by everybody else.

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Quote:Just a shame you got to watch a future Hall of Fame player for years and all you got out of it was bitterness and no appreciation of what you got to see.

Actually I was a fan until around Spring Training of 2018. When he wanted to be a hitter, he was awesome. He had a complete and total shit early part of the 2017 season, then had one of the greatest runs that I've ever seen from a hitter. I've seen better short runs or streaks but he was on fire for a couple of months. I've rarely seen stretches like that and most of the ones that I have seen like that were early in the season. His was during crunch time when teams that are still in it are already playing like it's the playoffs. He had just missed out on the MVP and I 'figgered' that it was obvious that he was going to come to ST pumped and focused on a strong ST continuing into the regular season.

Nope.

Instead, we got him goofing around and trying to see how many foul balls he could get, joking with the dugout in between pitches. We also got something that I have never seen before or since from any of the thousands of players that I've watched or played with or against. A practice check swing. I didn't see a guy trying to hit or practicing to hit the ball after a great season, I saw a guy focused on not hitting the ball. That was a first for me. .284 is a good average, but it was a clear drop off from a guy that was in the MVP race as he seemingly went from aggressor to duck and hide. It was also his worst full season of his career at that point, but that stupid practice check swing stayed for a couple more years as his average dropped. He still had it into the 2021 season but dropped it early then started hitting again.

Bitter? No. Disappointed? Very. He totally pissed away the tail end of his career. Usually it's from something off of the field like drugs or violence but his was simply from mentality and approach to the game. All I saw was a guy that knew he wasn't going to be cut or traded. He was eventually just dragging a carcass across the finish line for a paycheck. You should never want your star to retire, but that's where we were.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(55 minutes ago)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: So Votto is why Choo was good, but poor Joey was drug down by everybody else.

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So tons of players had career years while playing with Votto, but Steer TWO YEARS AFTER VOTTO LEFT taking a strike down the middle is because of Votto's "stink".

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[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

(53 minutes ago)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: So tons of players had career years while playing with Votto, but Steer TWO YEARS AFTER VOTTO LEFT taking a strike down the middle is because of Votto's "stink".

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When I see a player play with no testicles, it's not my fault that Votto instantly pops in my mind. Maybe you can erase his last six seasons from your memory. They're the most recent so still they stick out to me.