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(07-08-2025, 04:39 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: We haven't had a RB with the amount of college production as Tahj for quite a bit.
?... we have had a minimum of 3 of them on our roster for at least the last 3 years straight.
Last college seasons...
(Big 12) Tahj Brooks: 1,505 rushing yards (5.3 ypc)/17 TD ... 199 receiving yards (7.3 avg)/1 TD
(Big Ten) Chase Brown: 1,643 rushing yards (5.0 ypc)/10 TD ... 240 receiving yards (8.9 avg)/3 TD
(SEC) Trayveon Williams: 1,760 rushing yards (6.5 ypc)/18 TD ... 278 receiving yards (10.3 avg)/1 TD
(Big 12) Joe Mixon: 1,274 rushing yards (6.8 ypc)/10 TD ... 538 receiving yards (14.5 avg)/5 TD
(Pac 12) Zack Moss: 1,416 rushing yards (6.0 ypc)/15 TD ... 388 receiving yards (13.9 avg)/2 TD
- - - -
Perine got hurt his final season, but his Freshman season in the Big 12 he had 1,713 yards (6.5 ypc)/21 TD ... 108 receiving yards(7.2 avg)/0 TD
(Go back further and Jeremy Hill and Giovani Bernard both had big seasons too.)
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(07-05-2025, 04:52 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Mini camp is tag football..nothing else..Tahj is a backup if he makes the active roster..which I doubt
Brooks should make the team as RB4.
At the end of the day, you're talking fringe offensive players who will play mostly/solely ST and hopefully they develop into somewhat of a contributor on offense.
RB4, TE4, WR6-7.
Bengals likely won't carry 15 offensive weapons, so it will come down to who provides the most on ST and/or hope to eventually contribute to offense to keep.
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Changes needed to do better in Sept/Oct moving forward.
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(07-08-2025, 06:19 PM)ochocincos Wrote: RB4, TE4, WR6-7.
Bengals likely won't carry 15 offensive weapons
Sept 1st 2024: 3 RB/5 TE/6 WR (14)
Sept 1st 2023: 4 RB/3 TE/6 WR (13)
Sept 1st 2022: 3 RB/4 TE/6 WR (13)
Sept 1st 2021: 3 RB/3 TE/7 WR (13)
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(07-08-2025, 06:06 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: ?... we have had a minimum of 3 of them on our roster for at least the last 3 years straight.
Last college seasons...
(Big 12) Tahj Brooks: 1,505 rushing yards (5.3 ypc)/17 TD ... 199 receiving yards (7.3 avg)/1 TD
(Big Ten) Chase Brown: 1,643 rushing yards (5.0 ypc)/10 TD ... 240 receiving yards (8.9 avg)/3 TD
(SEC) Trayveon Williams: 1,760 rushing yards (6.5 ypc)/18 TD ... 278 receiving yards (10.3 avg)/1 TD
(Big 12) Joe Mixon: 1,274 rushing yards (6.8 ypc)/10 TD ... 538 receiving yards (14.5 avg)/5 TD
(Pac 12) Zack Moss: 1,416 rushing yards (6.0 ypc)/15 TD ... 388 receiving yards (13.9 avg)/2 TD
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Perine got hurt his final season, but his Freshman season in the Big 12 he had 1,713 yards (6.5 ypc)/21 TD ... 108 receiving yards(7.2 avg)/0 TD
(Go back further and Jeremy Hill and Giovani Bernard both had big seasons too.)
Thanks for the numbers TLL, I was talking about overall college careers though where Tahj lead his division over his career. Not just the last
season, but yeah all those guys were very productive their last seasons in college. Trayveon Williams was the one who really disappointed me
as you see his numbers in the SEC.
Pretty sure both Trayveon and Chase Brown lead the nation in rushing at one time in their last year.
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(07-08-2025, 07:29 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thanks for the numbers TLL, I was talking about overall college careers though
Fair enough Nate, but that's just from him playing in college for 5 years, no? That's not actually a positive for RBs as if they're particularly good they're in the NFL 2 years earlier.
The only top-10 rusher last year who played more than 3 years in college was the 9th rusher Aaron Jones who only played 2 games in his 3rd year in college in Conference USA so he went back for a 4th.
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(07-08-2025, 06:06 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: ?... we have had a minimum of 3 of them on our roster for at least the last 3 years straight.
Last college seasons...
(Big 12) Tahj Brooks: 1,505 rushing yards (5.3 ypc)/17 TD ... 199 receiving yards (7.3 avg)/1 TD
(Big Ten) Chase Brown: 1,643 rushing yards (5.0 ypc)/10 TD ... 240 receiving yards (8.9 avg)/3 TD
(SEC) Trayveon Williams: 1,760 rushing yards (6.5 ypc)/18 TD ... 278 receiving yards (10.3 avg)/1 TD
(Big 12) Joe Mixon: 1,274 rushing yards (6.8 ypc)/10 TD ... 538 receiving yards (14.5 avg)/5 TD
(Pac 12) Zack Moss: 1,416 rushing yards (6.0 ypc)/15 TD ... 388 receiving yards (13.9 avg)/2 TD
- - - -
Perine got hurt his final season, but his Freshman season in the Big 12 he had 1,713 yards (6.5 ypc)/21 TD ... 108 receiving yards(7.2 avg)/0 TD
(Go back further and Jeremy Hill and Giovani Bernard both had big seasons too.)
I think we have a frontrunner for the 2025 Golden Binns Award.
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(07-08-2025, 08:50 PM)jason Wrote: I think we have a frontrunner for the 2025 Golden Binns Award.
If he surpasses Bernard Scott or Brian Leonard level production, it will be a success story from a 6th round pick.
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(07-08-2025, 06:28 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Sept 1st 2024: 3 RB/5 TE/6 WR (14)
Sept 1st 2023: 4 RB/3 TE/6 WR (13)
Sept 1st 2022: 3 RB/4 TE/6 WR (13)
Sept 1st 2021: 3 RB/3 TE/7 WR (13)
Yep exactly. 13-14 is the norm for them.
I think they'll go 4 RB, 4 TE, 6 WR this year.
RB - Brown, Perine, Moss, Brooks
TE - Gesicki, Sample, Hudson, Grandy/McLachlan
WR - Chase, Higgins, Iosivas, Jones, Burton, pure ST guy
If Brooks shows enough though in TC/PS, I could see them letting Moss go in favor of an extra TE, as TEs always seem to be getting hurt.
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I actually think we carry 4 RB's this year and go light on WR, with Gesicki being that wildcard (TE/WR) for us.
RB- Brown, Moss, Perine, Brooks. I think we try to control the clock a little more to help the defense.
TE- Gesicki, Sample, Hudson, KOLE TAYLOR- 3 pass catchers, 1 blockers.
WR- Chase, Higgins, Yoshi, Burton, Jones, JORDAN MOORE
-I think the 2 UDFA's have a good shot at making the 53. Moore is that team first captain guy we like who I think is more of a possesion reciever and fills the role of trenton Irwin nicely. Taylor is 6'7 good hands, would cause mismatches in the red zone with Geisicki in the middle.
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(07-08-2025, 07:58 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Fair enough Nate, but that's just from him playing in college for 5 years, no? That's not actually a positive for RBs as if they're particularly good they're in the NFL 2 years earlier.
The only top-10 rusher last year who played more than 3 years in college was the 9th rusher Aaron Jones who only played 2 games in his 3rd year in college in Conference USA so he went back for a 4th.
Things like that are going to start happening more often. Tahj Brooks stayed for his 5th year even though he likely would have been drafted higher in 2024 because Texas Tech paid him a ton in NIL.
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(07-08-2025, 07:58 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Fair enough Nate, but that's just from him playing in college for 5 years, no? That's not actually a positive for RBs as if they're particularly good they're in the NFL 2 years earlier.
The only top-10 rusher last year who played more than 3 years in college was the 9th rusher Aaron Jones who only played 2 games in his 3rd year in college in Conference USA so he went back for a 4th.
Wear and tear might be the only negative I have on Tahj Brooks to your point. Still think he is an instant upgrade in the room as he has good
vision, is built like a bowling ball and has good burst. Might be our best runner of the RB's. Chase Brown is the lightning, Perine is the sledge
hammer and Tahj is more in between.
I didn't like losing Khalil Herbert because he was a good, thick runner. But between bringing back Perine and adding Tahj I am happy now.
(07-08-2025, 08:50 PM)jason Wrote: I think we have a frontrunner for the 2025 Golden Binns Award.
Well I was never on the Binns train. I did maybe think Auden Tate could of been something with his size and range for a late round pick, but I
wouldn't put any of them in the Tahj Brooks mold, where he was a RB in an insanely deep RB class. These players can be studs more likely than
a late round WR behind talent.
Perine is getting up there in age and Moss shown nothing as a runner or a pass protector last year. Tahj only has Chase Brown as a sure thing in
front of him and he could very well get hurt.
(07-09-2025, 09:13 AM)Synric Wrote: Things like that are going to start happening more often. Tahj Brooks stayed for his 5th year even though he likely would have been drafted higher in 2024 because Texas Tech paid him a ton in NIL.
Truth. I bet Tahj would of went much higher in the 2024 Draft.
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When I watch his game tape, he reminds me a lot of Rudi Johnson. I was ecstatic when they got him in the 6th.
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(07-09-2025, 05:24 PM)rupethereitis Wrote: When I watch his game tape, he reminds me a lot of Rudi Johnson. I was ecstatic when they got him in the 6th.
I think Tahj is more explosive, but other than that I see it.
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(07-09-2025, 01:37 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Wear and tear might be the only negative I have on Tahj Brooks to your point. Still think he is an instant upgrade in the room as he has good
vision, is built like a bowling ball and has good burst. Might be our best runner of the RB's. Chase Brown is the lightning, Perine is the sledge
hammer and Tahj is more in between.
I didn't like losing Khalil Herbert because he was a good, thick runner. But between bringing back Perine and adding Tahj I am happy now.
Well I was never on the Binns train. I did maybe think Auden Tate could of been something with his size and range for a late round pick, but I
wouldn't put any of them in the Tahj Brooks mold, where he was a RB in an insanely deep RB class. These players can be studs more likely than
a late round WR behind talent.
Perine is getting up there in age and Moss shown nothing as a runner or a pass protector last year. Tahj only has Chase Brown as a sure thing in
front of him and he could very well get hurt.
Truth. I bet Tahj would of went much higher in the 2024 Draft.
I just like to say Golden Binns... I find it endlessly amusing. Those of us that say it probably even have a different winner every year... Though Auden Tate was a consensus multi year winner. For me in shocking fashion Jermaine Burton brought it home last year... Gonna plant my flag right now. In an amazing redemption story Burton is going for at least 600 yards this year and 6 TDs. Nothing but a gut feeling, but I'm dying on that hill.
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We like do it all backs
He’ll make the team behind Perine
May even beat Perine out if he can run well and pass protect
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(07-09-2025, 05:24 PM)rupethereitis Wrote: When I watch his game tape, he reminds me a lot of Rudi Johnson. I was ecstatic when they got him in the 6th.
That sounds encouraging. We've been needing a back with great contact balance like Rudi for a while now.
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(07-09-2025, 07:01 PM)jason Wrote: I just like to say Golden Binns... I find it endlessly amusing. Those of us that say it probably even have a different winner every year... Though Auden Tate was a consensus multi year winner. For me in shocking fashion Jermaine Burton brought it home last year... Gonna plant my flag right now. In an amazing redemption story Burton is going for at least 600 yards this year and 6 TDs. Nothing but a gut feeling, but I'm dying on that hill.
I getcha brother. Yes, Burton brought it home last year, problem was his head, not his talent. Looks like he might have his head on straight
more so this year so I can definitely see dying on that hill. I like Tahj though, he is smart as well and a class act.
(07-10-2025, 12:33 PM)3wt Wrote: That sounds encouraging. We've been needing a back with great contact balance like Rudi for a while now.
Yep, balance is huge and Tahj has great balance. That is what puts RB's like Saquon Barkley, Bijan Robinson and Ashton Jeanty on another realm.
Great contact balance.
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He's a power back and one of the draft objectives was a power back. He's also competent at pass protection. He'll make the team as Moss is an injury question mark and Perine we don't know if he has enough left in the tank.
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(07-10-2025, 02:48 PM)Joelist Wrote: He's a power back and one of the draft objectives was a power back. He's also competent at pass protection. He'll make the team as Moss is an injury question mark and Perine we don't know if he has enough left in the tank.
Will be nice having some physicality on the team again. I don't like being thought of as the finesse team of the Division, hate it actually.
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(07-09-2025, 07:01 PM)jason Wrote: I just like to say Golden Binns... I find it endlessly amusing. Those of us that say it probably even have a different winner every year... Though Auden Tate was a consensus multi year winner. For me in shocking fashion Jermaine Burton brought it home last year... Gonna plant my flag right now. In an amazing redemption story Burton is going for at least 600 yards this year and 6 TDs. Nothing but a gut feeling, but I'm dying on that hill.
I think Burton becomes a multiple year winner
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