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(07-27-2025, 08:59 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yes sir Luvnit. Stewart should be night and day from what we saw out of Sam the last few years. Will he make mistakes? Of course, but he
will be disruptive and won't just be held at bay all day from being slow and beat up. Love Sam Hubbard BTW.
i agree with you, also think NFL coaches will be better at blending his athletic skills with technique and finishing better. Also so much focus has been on his lack of sacks but where has been a weakness of late especially after Hubbard's body starting breaking down, lack of a good DE against the rush, i think that is wanted move him up over Pearce and Green, Bengals needed a 3 down DE . As for Hubbard a warrior as a player and a local ambassador especially for helping our schools.
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(07-27-2025, 03:26 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Awesome. I know almost all of us thought Knight was taken a little soon in the Draft but he could be as solid of a rookie as there is
with his natural ability to see the angles quickly, attack and wrap up. Sorely needed on this Defense with the lackluster play of Pratt
in these areas. Knight is a lot faster than the bulked up Pratt as well.
I remember one game last year where we were playing against a fast back and it was embarrassing watching Pratt chase the dude
around. LB's need to be athletic now a days. I like the additions of Burks and Carter as well. We are way more athletic on Defense
this year IMO.
A lot of people are complaining about Knight's age, but I think he is ready made to be paired with Wilson and the two of them will be something special this year.
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(Yesterday, 10:01 AM)Sled21 Wrote: A lot of people are complaining about Knight's age, but I think he is ready made to be paired with Wilson and the two of them will be something special this year.
The age doesn't concern me if he can contribute to winning football right now. With Burrow as the Bengals all-universe QB it's time to maximize all player talent to win, win, and win. Thus, we don't need the 2nd round LB to be a young project, but rather he needs to be a pick that sees the field on game day and impacts the game to favor a Bengals win.
Thus, agreed, he seems ready made to pair with Wilson and that matters more than him being a younger talent.
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(Yesterday, 09:49 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: i agree with you, also think NFL coaches will be better at blending his athletic skills with technique and finishing better. Also so much focus has been on his lack of sacks but where has been a weakness of late especially after Hubbard's body starting breaking down, lack of a good DE against the rush, i think that is wanted move him up over Pearce and Green, Bengals needed a 3 down DE . As for Hubbard a warrior as a player and a local ambassador especially for helping our schools.
For sure, Stewart is great at sealing the edge and is extremely big, fast and strong. Both Pearce and Green are undersized, weren't great at
stopping the run and had character concerns. I didn't like how Shemar handled the contract situation speaking out, but we don't know what
his agent advised him to do and character concerns were not a thing with Shemar before we drafted him.
Sam Hubbard is all class and done some great things for us, but we desperately needed an End opposite of Trey with the skills that Shemar
brings to the table.
(Yesterday, 10:01 AM)Sled21 Wrote: A lot of people are complaining about Knight's age, but I think he is ready made to be paired with Wilson and the two of them will be something special this year.
Yes sir Sled, Knight is pro ready and that is why Golden and Hobby wanted him so bad.
I like Burks too like I said, all of these guys have been impressing at camp along with our obvious starter in Logan.
(Yesterday, 12:35 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: The age doesn't concern me if he can contribute to winning football right now. With Burrow as the Bengals all-universe QB it's time to maximize all player talent to win, win, and win. Thus, we don't need the 2nd round LB to be a young project, but rather he needs to be a pick that sees the field on game day and impacts the game to favor a Bengals win.
Thus, agreed, he seems ready made to pair with Wilson and that matters more than him being a younger talent.
Well said, we need to win now. Not just try and develop projects that are young.
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(Yesterday, 10:01 AM)Sled21 Wrote: A lot of people are complaining about Knight's age, but I think he is ready made to be paired with Wilson and the two of them will be something special this year.
if you mean alot via on here, maybe, but ive read or heard very little from nfl analysis putting age as a red flag, ive actually heard more positive with his experience as a College player that he will be more ready to step into a starting role than previous rookies coming out at 20, 21, 22
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(Yesterday, 01:50 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: if you mean alot via on here, maybe, but ive read or heard very little from nfl analysis putting age as a red flag, ive actually heard more positive with his experience as a College player that he will be more ready to step into a starting role than previous rookies coming out at 20, 21, 22
Agreed, and when you factor the average length of an NFL career is only 3.3 years, if they can get 5-6 productive seasons from him it would be good.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
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(Yesterday, 02:17 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Agreed, and when you factor the average length of an NFL career is only 3.3 years, if they can get 5-6 productive seasons from him it would be good.
That's including the Jeffrey Gunters, Wyatt Hubers, Jordan Browns, and Deshaun Davis', etc out there bringing the average down.
2nd round picks are much longer.
Of the 2017 2nd round draft class only 11 of the 32 failed to be on a roster in 2024 (aka, their 8th year since being drafted).
32/32 of the 2021 2nd round draft class (so last year was their 4th year) were on a team in 2024.
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(Yesterday, 06:15 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: That's including the Jeffrey Gunters, Wyatt Hubers, Jordan Browns, and Deshaun Davis', etc out there bringing the average down.
2nd round picks are much longer.
Of the 2017 2nd round draft class only 11 of the 32 failed to be on a roster in 2024 (aka, their 8th year since being drafted).
32/32 of the 2021 2nd round draft class (so last year was their 4th year) were on a team in 2024.
Another great stat that most wouldn't think to look up. I've been optimistic on Knight since he was drafted, for a team that really needed to hit on some draft picks, he seems like a pretty good prospect.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
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(Yesterday, 01:50 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: if you mean alot via on here, maybe, but ive read or heard very little from nfl analysis putting age as a red flag, ive actually heard more positive with his experience as a College player that he will be more ready to step into a starting role than previous rookies coming out at 20, 21, 22
Yes, I meant on here when he was drafted.
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Knight was another pick I did not like, but his age had nothing to do with it. Him being pro-ready is a plus with us in win-now mode.
I just thought it was a bit of a reach. We could have traded back and gotten him later. I didn't think LB was our most glaring need with Burks here and Wilson & Pratt signed (IOL, S), but if we really wanted a LB upgrade, we should gave taken Campbell Rd1.
But those are positionsl priority and opportunity cost critiques. Nothing to do with the player, who I think will be our most impactful rookie. He and Fairchild are likely the only starters.
But that kind
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