Notes From Training Camp 2025

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(Yesterday, 06:00 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Yes it does.

Yes, training in heat can improve performance, particularly in endurance sports and for athletes competing in warm climates. Heat training, also known as heat acclimation, involves exposing the body to elevated temperatures to induce physiological adaptations that enhance the body's ability to cope with heat stress and improve performance in both hot and cooler conditions.

If they were not prepared for this prior to camp, it’s on them. Camp shouldn’t be used for heat acclimation, that should have been done so they could be ready day 1 to focus on football.

I do this and I do not get paid millions of dollars.

You keep using that word, but I don’t think you know what it means.

From ChatGPT:

Acclimatizing to heat—also called heat acclimatization or heat adaptation—typically takes 7 to 14 days of consistent exposure to hot conditions, depending on the individual and the level of heat stress.

? Overview of the Acclimatization Timeline
Day What Happens
1–3 Initial exposure triggers discomfort, high heart rate, heavy sweating. Body is inefficient at cooling.
4–7 Core temperature control improves, sweating becomes more efficient (starts earlier, more diluted), and heart rate decreases.
8–14 Full acclimatization for most healthy people. Body holds onto salt and fluids better, reduces risk of heat exhaustion.

Training camp where the team is located is exactly where you get acclimatized to the local environmental conditions.

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 06:28 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Current temperature in Phoenix, AZ is 102 F. Are you running a marathon in 102 F heat on Day 2 of your training? Of course not. You should increase your workload and exposure to environmental conditions the same as you would increase your mileage. The Bengals have all of camp and the preseason to acclimate.

I can tell you from experience, 102 F in AZ with 8% humidity feels a lot more tolerable than lower temps with the higher humidity of the Ohio River valley.

I can also tell from this conversation who has deployed to deserts or near the equator and who hasn’t.

If I am training for a marathon for 102 degree weather, yes my training will be at 102, OR HOTTER. I had better be used to running in hot weather before I show up. Like I said earlier, I have run outside every day this month… why? Because when it’s optimal temperatures in the fall I can PR, at 39 years old. There is an outside chance I could qualify for Boston next year (getting an extra 5 min would help, being 40).

Injuries are fluky, but being prepared for these conditions can be avoided. I didn’t throw up yesterday and I was at 170 BPM for 22:30 outside.

No one is asking them to be able to play a game today. But to not be able to get through a practice is inexcusable.

[*pally*]

(Yesterday, 05:04 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: 100%

Black sheep may be an awesome training facility.  But you are not doing yourself any favors for heat adjustments.  

I’m sure some of them were doing outdoor cardio, but it s likely obvious who wasn’t.

that's nonsense...I do cardio every single day in the heat and can still cramp up.  Cramps have nothing to do with being in or out of shape.  It has to do with hydration and potassium levels.  My guess is that these few players underestimated how quickly the heat and humidity would rise this morning and didn't drink enough before and during practice.  

And frankly, these guys are doing way more than simply running in the heat during practice

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 06:33 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You keep using that word, but I don’t think you know what it means.

From ChatGPT:

Acclimatizing to heat—also called heat acclimatization or heat adaptation—typically takes 7 to 14 days of consistent exposure to hot conditions, depending on the individual and the level of heat stress.

? Overview of the Acclimatization Timeline
Day What Happens
1–3 Initial exposure triggers discomfort, high heart rate, heavy sweating. Body is inefficient at cooling.
4–7 Core temperature control improves, sweating becomes more efficient (starts earlier, more diluted), and heart rate decreases.
8–14 Full acclimatization for most healthy people. Body holds onto salt and fluids better, reduces risk of heat exhaustion.

Training camp where the team is located is exactly where you get acclimatized to the local environmental conditions.

THEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS ON THEIR OWN IN JUNE.

Not sorry for the caps. Rather than come in not ready to practice, they are focusing on fitness. These guys make too much money to not be prepared for this!

[J24]

Anyone heard anything about how the D-Line is doing?

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 06:37 PM)pally Wrote: that's nonsense...I do cardio every single day in the heat and can still cramp up.  Cramps have nothing to do with being in or out of shape.  It has to do with hydration and potassium levels.  My guess is that these few players underestimated how quickly the heat and humidity would rise this morning and didn't drink enough before and during practice.  

And frankly, these guys are doing way more than simply running in the heat during practice

In an earlier post I said, hydration, nutrition and stretching as well.

And I know they are doing more than running, but that’s what they should be keeping themselves ready for in the offseason.

This is amazing how many of the same people on this board want to start fast, and run a harder camp… but 2 days in, it’s a pass. Obviously some of the players were not ready.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(Yesterday, 06:37 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: If I am training for a marathon for 102 degree weather, yes my training will be at 102, OR HOTTER. I had better be used to running in hot weather before I show up. Like I said earlier, I have run outside every day this month… why? Because when it’s optimal temperatures in the fall I can PR, at 39 years old. There is an outside chance I could qualify for Boston next year (getting an extra 5 min would help, being 40).

Injuries are fluky, but being prepared for these conditions can be avoided. I didn’t throw up yesterday and I was at 170 BPM for 22:30 outside.

No one is asking them to be able to play a game today. But to not be able to get through a practice is inexcusable.

You’re not training in 102 F heat on Day 2.

If you live in Cincinnati, you will very rarely train in 102 F heat, either.

[*Synric*]

(Yesterday, 06:33 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You keep using that word, but I don’t think you know what it means.

From ChatGPT:

Acclimatizing to heat—also called heat acclimatization or heat adaptation—typically takes 7 to 14 days of consistent exposure to hot conditions, depending on the individual and the level of heat stress.

? Overview of the Acclimatization Timeline
Day What Happens
1–3 Initial exposure triggers discomfort, high heart rate, heavy sweating. Body is inefficient at cooling.
4–7 Core temperature control improves, sweating becomes more efficient (starts earlier, more diluted), and heart rate decreases.
8–14 Full acclimatization for most healthy people. Body holds onto salt and fluids better, reduces risk of heat exhaustion.

Training camp where the team is located is exactly where you get acclimatized to the local environmental conditions.

I don't think people understand how bad of a a year it's been in the Ohio Valley. Over thr last month we have gotten 8 inches of rain. I read somewhere it was rhe most in 100 years. The Humidity this year has been deadly.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(Yesterday, 06:41 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: In an earlier post I said, hydration, nutrition and stretching as well.

And I know they are doing more than running, but that’s what they should be keeping themselves ready for in the offseason.

This is amazing how many of the same people on this board want to start fast, and run a harder camp… but 2 days in, it’s a pass. Obviously some of the players were not ready.

Go run your 5K in 15:05 and tell me how you do.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(Yesterday, 06:49 PM)Synric Wrote: I don't think people understand how bad of a a year it's been in the Ohio Valley. Over thr last month we have gotten 8 inches of rain. I read somewhere it was rhe most in 100 years. The Humidity this year has been deadly.

It’s funny how someone who might qualify for the Boston marathon doesn’t understand why the professional men’s race starts at 9:37 am instead of 11:15 am for the 4th wave.

[*pally*]

(Yesterday, 06:39 PM)J24 Wrote: Anyone heard anything about how the D-Line is doing?

I haven't seen any specific mentions of the DL

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 07:13 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: It’s funny how someone who might qualify for the Boston marathon doesn’t understand why the professional men’s race starts at 9:37 am instead of 11:15 am for the 4th wave.

My running days are long over. I was never a pro athlete or close to it. However, if you get paid millions of dollars a year to play a sport, you should be smart enough to understand what your body needs to perform at the highest level day 1 of camp. I agree with the one running marathons, no excuse for them to be out of shape, but I am not saying they are out of shape definitley either. Pally is correct, lots f reasons to cramp up or overheat.

If they are not drinking a gallon of water the previous day, they are at risk for hydration issues and some people like me hate water for example.

[Stewy]

Ok this discussion on heat is a complete tangent and wreaks of dumbassery.

Can we talk about friggin football please?

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 06:42 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You’re not training in 102 F heat on Day 2.

If you live in Cincinnati, you will very rarely train in 102 F heat, either.

I did today. And yesterday. And every day the last 4 months. Temperature doesn’t change my prep.

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 06:50 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Go run your 5K in 15:05 and tell me how you do.

If I could get paid millions to do it, i would give it all I got. That said im 39, with 2 herniated discs. So PT, stretching and cross training are important. I mentioned earlier I am not a professional athlete, but I do have a 19:00 PR within the last year and very much acclimated to the weather.

If I can do that, on top of my job, wife and two daughters (one two months old). So can they.

[*pally*]

(Yesterday, 08:20 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: If I could get paid millions to do it, i would give it all I got. That said im 39, with 2 herniated discs. So PT, stretching and cross training are important. I mentioned earlier I am not a professional athlete, but I do have a 19:00 PR within the last year and very much acclimated to the weather.

If I can do that, on top of my job, wife and two daughters (one two months old). So can they.

Give it a rest…we got it…you are the perfect athlete and never miscalculate your preparation for weather

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 09:31 PM)pally Wrote: Give it a rest…we got it…you are the perfect athlete and never miscalculate your preparation for weather

No, and we can agree to disagree. That’s fine by me.

[007BengalsFan]

Driving downtown today I saw several crews of construction workers throughout downtown with the sun beating down on them with many of these guys being older and obviously not in the best physical shape. If these guys can work outside 8 hours a day, I would hope young athletes in the prime of their life would be able to handle the same weather. If these athletes have not prepared for this type of weather, they lose the right to say being a football player is a year around job they have to work at because they obviously were not putting in the effort to get ready for training camp. My guess is a bunch of these guys did little to no conditioning to get ready for camp.

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 09:31 PM)pally Wrote: Give it a rest…we got it…you are the perfect athlete and never miscalculate your preparation for weather

It's not just him. I played adult Semi-Pro Football into my 30s, our season was during this time of year. If guys are falling out from heat related cramps and injuries, it's likely because they've kept themselves too comfortable leading up to this time.

[NotBigzo]

(Yesterday, 08:00 PM)Stewy Wrote: Ok this discussion on heat is a complete tangent and wreaks of dumbassery.

Can we talk about friggin football please?

Won't be anything worth talking about until next camp session.