Notes From Training Camp 2025

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 09:53 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: If evaluating NFL talent was easy, then we would need 1 scout and not 4. So sorry, I disagree. You don't like Eric which is fine, but arrogance and know it all attitdes get challenged it here, yes by fans with less knowledge which I admit is me.

I am not dying on any hill, just making an obersvation and then an opinion just as you do every day in this forum. Syric can share hs prediction of Stewart's rookie year and career sack totals and tell us now if he will be:

Bust
Average
Good
Very good
Outstanding

Then we will have data andhe either earns respect or loses respect. That is fair IMHO.

Did you not even read the post you replied to?

1. It's not easy
2. I never came close to saying that
3. Strawmen are very flammable


To your point; sure he can but when did he ever tell you he's infallable? I've already clearly stated that i think he's leaning towards bust but i could be completely wrong. You know what? That will have no effect on any "predictions" anyone has made in the past or will make in the future. No one is 100% right or 100% wrong. 












































































Except ERIC. He's a ******* and always wrong. But as i said before, he's always welcome to come by my shop and prove me wrong and i will fall right on the sword. 

[sandwedge]

(Yesterday, 08:57 PM)Synric Wrote: And you think that is a vote of confidence?

You do realize they have been terrible at drafting DL over the last 15 years. The last Defensive Tackle they drafted that played well in Cincinnati is Geno Atkins drsfted 2010... and before you say Kris Jenkins and McKinnley Jackson both were not good last year. Could they be better this year? Yes, But the arrow is NOT pointing up.


Seriously if you continue to post on a football forum you should learn some football. It's not hard alot of information but not hard.

I disagree, the arrow is pointing up for Jackson and Jenkins.

[Whatever]

As a longtime draft forum denizen going back to the mother ship, I can tell you this. If you're taking the word of any of our board draftniks(myself included) over any NFL personnel guy's, you need your head examined. They are not only far more knowledgeable, but they also have access to information regarding prospects that we just don't get.

Reality is, it does not matter what any rookie did in college. What matters is how they look as a pro. The time to debate that stuff was months ago before the draft. It makes zero difference, now. It also makes no difference whether we, as fans, are comfortable with them in a certain role or their ability to hit certain amounts of production. The coaches are looking at that and will determine how much they will play.

With Stewart, kid had a great first day in pads and made some plays that can help get the D off the field in a real game. Awesome. I hope he can keep it up.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

As for the Jackson & Jenkins, the arrow was most certainly pointing up for Jackson. There was a post on here (this thread?) that had his PFF scores over the last 4-5 games, and it was like 85 against the run. That is DJ Reader, elite run defender territory.

Justca handful of games, sure. If if was the last 4, that was only 90 snaps for Jackson.

But small sample size and low snaps counts is an argument about sustainability. In terms of the arrow, it was up BIGLY at the end of last year for Jackson. No doubt.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

Will Hernandez gets medical clearance.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2025/07/g-will-hernandez-receives-medical-clearance

[Sled21]

(Today, 12:54 AM)sandwedge Wrote: I disagree, the arrow is pointing up for Jackson and Jenkins.

Both of them are going to have a big jump this season. And we'll have to revisit this thread then.

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 05:10 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: This makes me happy, thanks Pally. We needed a true NT badly.

Having a healthy big fella in the middle is going to seem like a night and day difference for the defense this year. Combine that with a fully healthy Logan Wilson and the fresh legs of D Knight, the run stopping ability should make a dramatic turnaround.

[Essex Johnson]

(Yesterday, 05:37 PM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: They had a top tier proven DC, a good defense, and an adequate run game. It's a little different when you want to sling the ball all over the yard and don't know what your defense/run game are going to look like imo. Not saying that Fairchild and Patrick/Ford can't do it. It just seems like a massive gamble. I don't see why they shouldn't be sniffing around for players like Scherff or Rinser. You're clicking your heels if you have guys like Patrick, Volson, and Ford...as backups. In the midst of a Super Bowl window why put so much pressure on guys who have no record of being consistent, good starters?

Well then i guess the Ravens are gambling also, in the end it is hard to keep a solid Oline across the board with injuries , free agents, miss draft picks and priorities. We have with Burrows blessing prioritized skilled players in our offense a bit more than the line, we did not have alot in the pot to go after the top guards in FA, so we drafted a guard early and when with a guard who has performed well over past two years in Patrick.  If Fairchild does work out then you should have a decent to good line in 4 of your positions which is probably norm or above in the NFL. 

[Essex Johnson]

(Today, 02:36 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: As for the Jackson & Jenkins, the arrow was most certainly pointing up for Jackson. There was a post on here (this thread?) that had his PFF scores over the last 4-5 games, and it was like 85 against the run. That is DJ Reader, elite run defender territory.

Justca handful of games, sure. If if was the last 4, that was only 90 snaps for Jackson.

But small sample size and low snaps counts is an argument about sustainability. In terms of the arrow, it was up BIGLY at the end of last year for Jackson. No doubt.

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it was hard to judge Jacksons rookie year because of injury but i agree he played better the more time he got on the field, Jenkins also fought injuries and move a bit more around the line which can be an adjustment especially for a rookie, finally most rookies in the NFL do not shine right away, the NFL is a different level and takes a bit longer to evaluate them as a whole. I agree i feel by end of year they were starting to play better and lets hope that trend continues as they are rotated into the lineup this season.

[*Synric*]

(Yesterday, 09:58 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I coached club soccer for almost 20 years. But, it was unpaid and I had my career and then bought a business. I then went was hired and coached high school soccer, the JV team and also helpedthe varsity.

I spent more money driving the 25 miles each way than I made. So, yes it take a passion to do something you love and so it for nothing. I loved it and would still be doing but sometimes life makes up stop.

I urge Syric to volunteer or get hired as a high school coach, it is time consuimg, but rewarding. I worked 50 to 60 hours a week and then did the soccer thing for over 20 years, it can be done, but lots of sacrifces.

I do at the high school and I did coach 12-14 year Olds for a couple years. I actually got to volunteer this summer st a Semi Pro training camp. The Wheeling Iron Men restarted their team this year and it was an experience being around real college coaches even if they were d2 and d3. I was just checking names off as they went through drills but it was fun.

[sloSTI]

They released Moss, wonder if he was still hurt

[Luvnit2]

(5 hours ago)sloSTI Wrote: They released Moss, wonder if he was still hurt

I wish they would have done this earlier versus giving him more guaranteed money.

I have a hunch they really like Brooks also

[Nepa]

(Yesterday, 09:09 PM)Synric Wrote: Even when they were healthy at the end of the year it was more down than up. McKinnley Jackson is a NT that struggles against Double teams. His best trait is his first step which is negated because he lines up a yard deeper so he can have an time to deconstruct blocks.  Jenkins is just not a quick step guy. He needs to develop better power moves dude is strong but he stalls so easy wirh his bull and doesn't use a push pull which he should. He isn't great at double teams but I can be more lenient on a 3t, 2i, 4i. He is a monster in gap control 1 on 1 though. This isn't just my opinion from 1 NFL year but also from 2 years in college. These players need to take a massive step forward. 

So, I was unaware of your background. You played a year in the NFL and two years in college? What position?

[Soonerpeace]

(5 hours ago)Nepa Wrote: So, I was unaware of your background. You played a year in the NFL and two years in college? What position?

Synric great on our Gameday chat on X’s and O’s

[TecmoBengals]

(5 hours ago)Nepa Wrote: So, I was unaware of your background. You played a year in the NFL and two years in college? What position?

I also didn't know that about him. It's cool learning about the experiences of others so I'm also intrigued.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(5 hours ago)Nepa Wrote: So, I was unaware of your background. You played a year in the NFL and two years in college? What position?

He meant Jackson, not himself.

[Luvnit2]

C Seth McLaughlin cleared and added to the roster

[TecmoBengals]

(5 hours ago)sloSTI Wrote: They released Moss, wonder if he was still hurt

While reading that I noticed the article noted McLaughlin is cleared to practice.

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/cincinnati-bengals-make-roster-move-intriguing-rookie-cleared-to-practice-01k1ds8gbq74

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 04:15 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: This is upsetting in a couple different ways.

First, for Moss. That sucks for his career. 

Second, it sucks that the Bengals didn't check in on him. That is so bush league. But about what I expectcfrom this organization. 

But most importantly, how the fkcu do you not give the guy with the sore neck an X-ray? For weeks? WTF? 

Most NFL players have sore necks from time to time; it's a result of hammering helmets together. If they gave them an X-ray or CT for every soreness they get, they would be overexposing them to radiation. As soon as he developed symptoms, he had a CT (although with an on-site MRI I'm not sure why that would not have been used)
As for the Bengals checking in on him, is he a child? In the real world if you get hurt on your job, the machine keeps moving without you. I'm sure he had contact with trainers, etc., but coaches have all their time focused on the next game. It sucks, but that's just the way it is.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Today, 02:36 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: As for the Jackson & Jenkins, the arrow was most certainly pointing up for Jackson. There was a post on here (this thread?) that had his PFF scores over the last 4-5 games, and it was like 85 against the run. That is DJ Reader, elite run defender territory.

Justca handful of games, sure. If if was the last 4, that was only 90 snaps for Jackson.

But small sample size and low snaps counts is an argument about sustainability. In terms of the arrow, it was up BIGLY at the end of last year for Jackson. No doubt.

Not just that, but keep in mind that the last 6 games after the bye, by rushing YPC, we played the 25th, 30th, 22nd, 23rd, 21st, and 25th ranked teams.