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Former first round pick, 27 years old. Good receiver, not great blocker. Seems like a similar TE to Mike G.
That said, I’m all for bringing in a proven productive player to camp.
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this is worth a look, the TE room needs more I feel.
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(Yesterday, 03:52 AM)psychdoctor Wrote: this is worth a look, the TE room needs more I feel.
Ive always beena fan of this dude and we did need a more complete TE to pair with MG
...but kind of weird timing. IDK but....Is this just a distraction from the obvious issues signing Trey and SS?
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I don't see the Browns fronting a lot of money for the guy and if he has a market, we probably don't win a bidding war.
But still, I don't see this as a priority signing. We have a QB, two receivers, and a pass catching TE. Our pass attack is the last thing we should be looking to fortify.
But if the Bengals aren't going to do shit else about the defense they might as well.
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He wasn't very good last year. He's still young, but It's not like it's his 3rd year in the league. He's been around for 6 years and he's always just... serviceable and that's ok. He doesn't need to be amazing, he needs to move the sticks and block. Anything else outside of that is a bonus.
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Fant was 18th in yards last year while being 22nd in targets. He was actually pretty efficient with the opportunities he got, his yards per reception was 12th in the league on TE's with at least 40 receptions. With the situation he was in, all things considered, he was pretty good last year and gives us a viable option in 12 personnel now if we choose to go that route.
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(Yesterday, 10:44 AM)Bengalion Wrote: He wasn't very good last year. He's still young, but It's not like it's his 3rd year in the league. He's been around for 6 years and he's always just... serviceable and that's ok. He doesn't need to be amazing, he needs to move the sticks and block. Anything else outside of that is a bonus.
Gotta look at opportunity share, not just final season stats. He produced, at a similar level to Mike G. Twice he has had 90+ targets and each year caught 60+ and had 670 yards. That would have been good for top 10 in yards by TE last year, the year before, the year before and he was tight end 10 in 2021.
Long story short, he is a good NfL player, but not a superstar.
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(Yesterday, 10:52 AM)Au165 Wrote: Fant was 18th in yards last year while being 22nd in targets. He was actually pretty efficient with the opportunities he got, his yards per reception was 12th in the league on TE's with at least 40 receptions. With the situation he was in, all things considered, he was pretty good last year and gives us a viable option in 12 personnel now if we choose to go that route.
Yep, I just responded below you.
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(Yesterday, 10:44 AM)Bengalion Wrote: He wasn't very good last year. He's still young, but It's not like it's his 3rd year in the league. He's been around for 6 years and he's always just... serviceable and that's ok. He doesn't need to be amazing, he needs to move the sticks and block. Anything else outside of that is a bonus.
I don't disagree 100%. Only thing I would say he sure was paid a lot of money his 2nd contract for being servicable.
Was he cut due to his over 10 million a year salary for 2025? Maybe he is just not worth his contract as he was very high paid for his production.
Please use 2025 free agency to fix the trenches, not the draft!!!!!!!!
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(Yesterday, 10:56 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Gotta look at opportunity share, not just final season stats. He produced, at a similar level to Mike G. Twice he has had 90+ targets and each year caught 60+ and had 670 yards. That would have been good for top 10 in yards by TE last year, the year before, the year before and he was tight end 10 in 2021.
Long story short, he is a good NfL player, but not a superstar.
He does it differently than Mike though. Mike runs straight line routes and uses his length and hands to win as a receiver. Noah Fant does it on screens and using his short area quickness to break off option routes. Fant is closer to Hayden Hurst than Gesicki.
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I like Noah Fant.
Dude has averaged 591 yards a season in his 6-year career.
He's more of a true TE than Gesicki, and Fant would allow the team to run more 12-personnel.
Fant also, IMO, is an upgrade to the passing game vs having Iosivas in the game as WR3.
Sign Fant, then they only need to see how Ford, Patrick, and Fairchild are coming along in a few weeks through preseason to get an idea if they need to get another OG or not.
If they can get Fant and the IOL play can be improved, it really should then be all on the defense at that point whether the season will be successful (deep playoff run). Not much more the offense could do from a player quality standpoint.
This would also be the best weapons Burrow has had in Cincy, arguably.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. Ended 9-8 but barely missed playoffs
Changes needed to do better in Sept/Oct moving forward.
Sorry for Party Rocking!
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Fun fact: Denver selected Noah Fant with the #20 pick in the 2019 NFL Draft. They originally had the #10 and traded back w/ PITT who leapfrogged the Bengals to take Devin Bush, the took Jonah Williams with the next pick in the draft. The trade also gave Den the #52 pick in that draft, who they then traded that pick and picks 125 and 182 to the Cincinnati Bengals to move up to pick 42.
Denver took Drew Locke with #42
Cincy took:
52: Drew Sample
125: Ranell Wren
182: Trayveon Williams
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Makes the TE room better and gives Burrow another big body to target, and does not break the bank.
I am in favor of seeing him inked to a one year "prove it" deal.
Who could hate seeing move big bodies out there giving Joe tons of options.
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Good move, always liked Noah Fant. He offers something a bit different than the rest of our TE's.
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I didn't know he was a FA.
Absolutely should add him as he's just a quality player, and I don't trust any WR on our team after the first 2 (and that's assuming Tee stays healthy). Will gladly take sets of Chase, Tee, Gesicki, Fant, Brown as our base.
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(Yesterday, 12:20 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I didn't know he was a FA.
Absolutely should add him as he's just a quality player, and I don't trust any WR on our team after the first 2 (and that's assuming Tee stays healthy). Will gladly take sets of Chase, Tee, Gesicki, Fant, Brown as our base.
He was just cut a few days ago
Please use 2025 free agency to fix the trenches, not the draft!!!!!!!!
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(Yesterday, 12:23 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: He was just cut a few days ago
He was cut to save money.. 8 million..non guaranteed...whatever that means...I like the guy..the bengals were contemplating drafting him when he came out of college
Later..off to golf...going to bengals practice tommorrow...retirement is fun
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Might as well bring him in if they can agree on a number. I’m sure it would just be a one year deal which is beneficial to both sides.
This does fit the Bengals’ philosophy - don’t worry too much about the D or IOl. Just keep gathering weapons and out score ‘em!
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