AJ McCarron is a future star

[Stormborn]

The only two throws I wanted him to make we're completely off mark.

He's living up to his scouting report.

[Devils Advocate]

(08-27-2015, 10:38 AM)nkywestside Wrote: My first post.  Andy is like the current Cincinnati Reds .. Stale .. and so Predictable..  
To say that AJ looked terrible is not being honest.  He threw 1 bad ball.  And for
a guy that hasn't played in so long I thought he looked poised, under control, and
provided a sense of leadership and trustworthiness.   Truthfully, and reading between
the lines of some Bengal teammates comments, I believethey think he should be the guy right 
now.  Personally, I don't think they trust Andy.   And Andy having to be a "fake" leader to
appease the coaches is absolutely ridiculous.  I think AJ has a future here and it may come
sooner than many realize.

Whose comments are indicative of AJ being the starter? That 3rd string guy that's only seen time with AJ?

[old man]

(08-27-2015, 09:28 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: This can't be argued. I can't understand why fans use pre-season to evaluate anything other than roster spot capability. I see good and bad by players who are studs in pre-season. Heck, the AJ Green non catch and pick 6 was brutal, but it does mean AJ is not a great WR for example.

If you go back and look at the INT run back. Green could have made a tackle. He didn't even try to. Total lack of caring on the play I feel'

[RoyleRedlegs]

(08-27-2015, 10:38 AM)nkywestside Wrote: My first post.  Andy is like the current Cincinnati Reds .. Stale .. and so Predictable..  
To say that AJ looked terrible is not being honest.  He threw 1 bad ball.  And for
a guy that hasn't played in so long I thought he looked poised, under control, and
provided a sense of leadership and trustworthiness.   Truthfully, and reading between
the lines of some Bengal teammates comments, I believethey think he should be the guy right 
now.  Personally, I don't think they trust Andy.   And Andy having to be a "fake" leader to
appease the coaches is absolutely ridiculous.  I think AJ has a future here and it may come
sooner than many realize.

He threw at least 2 bad balls. Everything else cam vs prevent defense against nobodies. 

[Luvnit2]

(08-27-2015, 10:38 AM)nkywestside Wrote: My first post.  Andy is like the current Cincinnati Reds .. Stale .. and so Predictable..  
To say that AJ looked terrible is not being honest.  He threw 1 bad ball.  And for
a guy that hasn't played in so long I thought he looked poised, under control, and
provided a sense of leadership and trustworthiness.   Truthfully, and reading between
the lines of some Bengal teammates comments, I believethey think he should be the guy right 
now.  Personally, I don't think they trust Andy.   And Andy having to be a "fake" leader to
appease the coaches is absolutely ridiculous.  I think AJ has a future here and it may come
sooner than many realize.

One major difference. The Reds are major losers and have been recently.
AD is a proven winner.

[*PhilHos*]

(08-27-2015, 10:38 AM)nkywestside Wrote: My first post.  Andy is like the current Cincinnati Reds .. Stale .. and so Predictable..  
To say that AJ looked terrible is not being honest.  He threw 1 bad ball.  And for
a guy that hasn't played in so long I thought he looked poised, under control, and
provided a sense of leadership and trustworthiness.   Truthfully, and reading between
the lines of some Bengal teammates comments, I believethey think he should be the guy right 
now.  Personally, I don't think they trust Andy.   And Andy having to be a "fake" leader to
appease the coaches is absolutely ridiculous.  I think AJ has a future here and it may come
sooner than many realize.

And hopefully your last post if this is indicative ofthe kinds of crap you're going to post.

Andy predictable? Have you NOT watched the Bengals the last 4 years? Andy is so inconsistent that they've replaced the definition of the word in the dictionary with his picture.

I'll give you that AJ showed some poise and seemed under control for the ost part, but the rest of what you wrote is just crap. He displayed absolutely NOTHING to provide ANY kind of sense towards leadership, trustworthiness or lack thereof.And there is absolutely NO member of the Benglas that thinks that McCarron should be the guy right now including AJ McCarron.

With that said, welcome to the boards!

[RoyleRedlegs]

(08-27-2015, 12:51 PM)PhilHos Wrote: And hopefully your last post if this is indicative ofthe kinds of crap you're going to post.

Andy predictable? Have you NOT watched the Bengals the last 4 years? Andy is so inconsistent that they've replaced the definition of the word in the dictionary with his picture.

I'll give you that AJ showed some poise and seemed under control for the ost part, but the rest of what you wrote is just crap. He displayed absolutely NOTHING to provide ANY kind of sense towards leadership, trustworthiness or lack thereof.And there is absolutely NO member of the Benglas that thinks that McCarron should be the guy right now including AJ McCarron.

With that said, welcome to the boards!

He forgot the "ROLL DAMN TIDE" at the end

[nkywestside]

(08-27-2015, 12:51 PM)PhilHos Wrote: And hopefully your last post if this is indicative ofthe kinds of crap you're going to post.

Andy predictable? Have you NOT watched the Bengals the last 4 years? Andy is so inconsistent that they've replaced the definition of the word in the dictionary with his picture.

I'll give you that AJ showed some poise and seemed under control for the ost part, but the rest of what you wrote is just crap. He displayed absolutely NOTHING to provide ANY kind of sense towards leadership, trustworthiness or lack thereof.And there is absolutely NO member of the Benglas that thinks that McCarron should be the guy right now including AJ McCarron.

With that said, welcome to the boards!

Funny.  Nice welcome.  What obviously you didn't get in the post was that Andy's "predictability" is obviously his "inconsistentcy".   I've watched the Bengals since 1973.  Seen many a QB.  and have played the position.    It's just my opinion but I think AJ will be a better QB than Andy.  No pissing contest here.   Just my opinion.   Hopefully, my "crap" posts will not bother you too much. in the future   

[nkywestside]

(08-27-2015, 12:34 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: He threw at least 2 bad balls. Everything else cam vs prevent defense against nobodies. 

(08-27-2015, 12:43 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: One major difference. The Reds are major losers and have been recently.
AD is a proven winner.

He threw 15 passes.  Would you trust Andy to throw 13 good balls even against a 2nd or 3rd string defense, with a collapsing pocket like AJ had?
Not me.   Besides didn't AJ play with a bunch of nobodies also?  

[Stormborn]

(08-27-2015, 02:04 PM)nkywestside Wrote: He threw 15 passes.  Would you trust Andy to throw 13 good balls even against a 2nd or 3rd string defense, with a collapsing pocket like AJ had?
Not me.   Besides didn't AJ play with a bunch of nobodies also?  

I forgot, only A.J. can make check downs and dump offs like Namath could.

Those dinky passes were a spectacle.

[3wt]

(08-25-2015, 10:01 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Hahahahahahaha...oh wait...you're serious

His longer throws were poor - but yes.

[RoyleRedlegs]

(08-27-2015, 02:04 PM)nkywestside Wrote: He threw 15 passes.  Would you trust Andy to throw 13 good balls even against a 2nd or 3rd string defense, with a collapsing pocket like AJ had?
Not me.   Besides didn't AJ play with a bunch of nobodies also?  

And of those 15, 2 were NFL level passes...he missed on both. 
Yes I would. He has done it before. So stop your hilarious hyperbole. 

I'll pay attention when he completes NFL level passes. 

(08-27-2015, 02:36 PM)3wt Wrote: His longer throws were poor - but yes.

He hit a bunch of open WR underneath vs a prevent he didn't do much of anything. 

[Interceptor]

(08-27-2015, 02:36 PM)3wt Wrote: His longer throws were poor - but yes.

So were McCarron's.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(08-27-2015, 04:40 PM)Interceptor Wrote: So were McCarron's.

Zing! I C wut ewe did ther.....

[RoyleRedlegs]

(08-27-2015, 05:00 PM)Wyche Wrote: Zing!   I C wut ewe did ther.....

Well, at least Dalton was 2/3 on deep throws.
1 drew a PI call.
1 should have been a TD
1 was picked. 

[BayouBengal]

Wow I'm away from my computer for a few days and of course the thread has more polarized comments than ever. Haters gonna hate.

I was a QB too nky and I agree that AJ has the better natural qualities for the position but Andy's the guy right now. That being said AJ had a better game than Andy and made better reads all night. And if you dont agree ask yourself truthfully who concerned you more in that game. AJ showed leadership and his upside while Dalton couldn't get things together and showed his downside of course on MNF.

Dalton didn't shake his bad game curse and did not make many good post snap reads, for instance his int to Eifert. In fact most of his completions came from one read type plays like the PA roll out to green or the two curls to green just before the int that wasnt Andy's fault. The progression plays were either misread or he was sacked or there was a flag.  I knew they weren't putting McCarron in until the half because they wanted Dalton to shake that bad game curse and lead his team on a come back drive. But he didnt. I am rewatching the game right now. Despite what the commentators were saying he didn't show that this is his team or that he is resilient to pressure. Thats his issue and to me he's not a "proven winner" at all until he can pull himself and his team out of a funk when they need it.

[3wt]

(08-27-2015, 03:57 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: And of those 15, 2 were NFL level passes...he missed on both. 
Yes I would. He has done it before. So stop your hilarious hyperbole. 

I'll pay attention when he completes NFL level passes. 


He hit a bunch of open WR underneath vs a prevent he didn't do much of anything. 

Well yes, we do not have a quarterback controversy, and yes he did not throw a significant pass that would force the safety out of the box. 

I just like the way he ran the offense - as much as because his long throws were poor as anything.  He did not cave mentally.  And his short throws were not panic throws.  He knew where he was going with them and put a little zing on them.  He took what the prevent was giving him and directed the team to a score.

I like that.

I'd like to think he'll improve on the longer throws and see what we end up with.   I have no real expectations at this point.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(08-27-2015, 05:40 PM)3wt Wrote: Well yes, we do not have a quarterback controversy, and yes he did not throw a significant pass that would force the safety out of the box. 

I just like the way he ran the offense - as much as because his long throws were poor as anything.  He did not cave mentally.  And his short throws were not panic throws.  He knew where he was going with them and put a little zing on them.  He took what the prevent was giving him and directed the team to a score.

I like that.

I'd like to think he'll improve on the longer throws and see what we end up with.   I have no real expectations at this point.

If he can improve the long ball, AND can roll the offense like that against first stringers.....we might have something here.....but those deep balls......yikes!

[3wt]

(08-27-2015, 05:54 PM)Wyche Wrote: If he can improve the long ball, AND can roll the offense like that against first stringers.....we might have something here.....but those deep balls......yikes!

Yeah they were ducks

[Mike M (the other one)]

(08-27-2015, 12:28 PM)old man Wrote: If you go back and look at the INT run back. Green could have made a tackle. He didn't even try to. Total lack of caring on the play I feel'

So you'd rather him take a chance and get hurt and be out for the season like Jordy Nelson in a meaningless game?  Well, I guess that would lower the amount of money he'd be able to sign for....