Thread Rating:
  • 4 Vote(s) - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
2020 Presidential Election
#81
(07-08-2019, 08:59 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: The ones I used are just for the quarter, but campaigns are distinguishing between the two. Hard to interpret what that 46% means without knowing how many total donors they were the 2nd quarter. Warren and Buttigieg had numbers near 80%, but they had less donors in the 1st quarter. In all reality, it could be the same total number of donors. 

With the Sanders campaign not giving specifics, it seems more likely that their total donor numbers didn't improve much. 

Seems odd that they wouldn’t disclose that if it hadn’t changed much and they were sitting on 500k+. My guess there might be a drop to that number and they’re afraid to release that info.
#82
Figured this would be a suitable place to share the sad news of the last person to make a 3rd Party relevant:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-billionaire-h-ross-perot-142222286.html

Quote:H. Ross Perot, the colorful, self-made Texas billionaire who rose from a childhood of Depression-era poverty and twice ran for president as a third-party candidate, has died. He was 89.

Perot, whose 19% of the vote in 1992 stands among the best showings by an independent candidate in the past century, died early Tuesday at his home in Dallas surrounded by his devoted family, family spokesman James Fuller said.
[Image: bfine-guns2.png]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#83
(07-09-2019, 12:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Figured this would be a suitable place to share the sad news of the last person to make a 3rd Party relevant:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-billionaire-h-ross-perot-142222286.html

[Image: 66159112_3098017783543438_86149774467913...e=5DC18110]

[Image: 4cfdd1b2d9f1648b18e419ea89c6f614.jpg]

I may not have agreed with the man, politically, but I admired him for a number of reasons.

Edit: I was too young to really know what he was about, I just remembered him backing Bush 43 and Romney. His views are actually pretty close to mine in many ways.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
#84
(07-09-2019, 12:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Figured this would be a suitable place to share the sad news of the last person to make a 3rd Party relevant:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-billionaire-h-ross-perot-142222286.html

We had a lot of fun using Perot back when I worked in radio.

That "giant sucking sound" got us around a lot of bits!  LOL!
[Image: giphy.gif]
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
#85
Watching a Status Coup video on Youtube, they said they called the Sander Campaign and were given the individual donor number and it was 450k. So that is a drop from first quarter, but still more than any other candidate, if this report is true.
#86
Trump said that Pence told him Mayor Pete hasn't done a good job as mayor.

Pete's response

[Image: ulVdgX6.jpg]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#87
Hoping to reach a conservative audience, Pete Buttigieg reached out to nationally syndicated Country music radio host Blair Garner for an interview. Cumulus, the broadcaster, refused to air it, citing the Equal Time Rule, suggesting that all other candidates would have to be given the same access if they aired it. Some disagreed with this take, saying that the Equal Time Rule really would just apply to political ads, not an news interview.

Garner posted the interview on Soundcloud.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/22/media/pete-buttigieg-interview-blair-garner/index.html
[Image: ulVdgX6.jpg]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#88
(07-03-2019, 11:33 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: The Trump campaign was running video ads portraying Trump voters. An attractive blonde woman from Florida, a lifelong democrat from Texas, and a hipster coffee shop owner from Washington.

The only problem is these are models from stock videos produced by a foreign company and purchased off Getty Images, not actual voters.


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/451494-trump-campaign-uses-foreign-stock-models-to-portray-supporters-in-ads?fbclid=IwAR1nxNnRgWME6eaWVCICzniYDYxFbeoItcRUq9RMm_xS3pnKEYZ-aq7D_Kk

OOOOH foreign interference again!! Sarcasm

PS Do you think he kissed them all or grabbed them all?
[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#89
(07-22-2019, 11:32 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Hoping to reach a conservative audience, Pete Buttigieg reached out to nationally syndicated Country music radio host Blair Garner for an interview. Cumulus, the broadcaster, refused to air it, citing the Equal Time Rule, suggesting that all other candidates would have to be given the same access if they aired it. Some disagreed with this take, saying that the Equal Time Rule really would just apply to political ads, not an news interview.

Garner posted the interview on Soundcloud.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/22/media/pete-buttigieg-interview-blair-garner/index.html

Kudos to Buttigieg and Garner. Not sure I agree with the decision by the media giant not to air the interview.

Do we have a link to the interview? 
[Image: bfine-guns2.png]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#90
(07-22-2019, 06:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Kudos to Buttigieg and Garner. Not sure I agree with the decision by the media giant not to air the interview.

Do we have a link to the interview? 

https://soundcloud.com/user-755551091/blair-garner-mayor-pete
[Image: ulVdgX6.jpg]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#91
(07-22-2019, 09:01 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: https://soundcloud.com/user-755551091/blair-garner-mayor-pete

Great interview. No secret that Mayor Pete is winning me over. He made the country music DJ appear the more liberal. A war vet and a man of faith. He's also called out a few of the far-left ideas. Hopefully, he can last long enough to be heard. 
[Image: bfine-guns2.png]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#92
(07-22-2019, 10:27 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Great interview. No secret that Mayor Pete is winning me over. He made the country music DJ appear the more liberal. A war vet and a man of faith. He's also called out a few of the far-left ideas. Hopefully, he can last long enough to be heard. 

He has a great way of framing the issues in a way that has broad moderate appeal, finding the necessary common ground. His responses to Medicare-for-all and Free College are perfect in my opinion. 
[Image: ulVdgX6.jpg]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#93
Don't forget that the fun resumes tomorrow with white night followed by minority night on Wednesday:

https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2019/07/podium-order-for-cnn-democratic-debate-in-detroit/

Things I'm looking forward to:

Marianne Williamson
Who will speak Spanish first
Who will gain the most traction with "I don't think Biden is a racist but..." on night 2
Andrew Yang getting a question
Gabbard v. Harris
Warren and Sanders sparing over which one is going to give away the most free stuff
[Image: bfine-guns2.png]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#94
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/07/30/presidential-tax-return-law/?fbclid=IwAR0TSUYvhhM2TmzfySL-SMGGy5bCdWP6zGAi2hlzZXs-9jUGe78qGkPWwRk


Quote:California Will Require President Trump, Others, To Release Tax Returns Before Appearing On Ballot


SACRAMENTO (CBS13) – In order for President Donald Trump to appear on California’s Presidential primary ballot, he will need to disclose five years worth of tax returns by November 26.

Governor Gavin Newsom signed Senate Bill 27 Tuesday. He wrote:



Quote:To the Members of the California State Senate:

Today, I am signing SB 27, the Presidential Tax Transparency and Accountability Act. I agree with the Legislature that “the State of California has a strong interest in ensuring that its voters make informed, educated choices in the voting booth.” As one of the largest economies in the world and home to one in nine Americans eligible to vote, California has a special responsibility to require this information of presidential and gubernatorial candidates.


 
These are extraordinary times and states have a legal and moral duty to do everything in their power to ensure leaders seeking the highest offices meet minimal standards, and to restore public confidence. The disclosure required by this bill will shed light on conflicts of interest, self-dealing, or influence from domestic and foreign business interest.

 
The United States Constitution grants states the authority to determine how their electors are chosen, and California is well within its constitutional right to include this requirement.

 
In October of 2018, the Brennan Center’s National Task Force on Rule of Law and Democracy, a bipartisan group of former public servants and policy experts, recommended that Congress standardize and codify the longstanding practice of tax return disclosure by sitting presidents, vice presidents, and candidates for those offices to assist voters and deter corruption. I agree. This law should be a national standard 

 
Accordingly, I am signing Senate Bill 27.”

The bill, known as the Presidential Tax Transparency and Accountability Act, requires all Presidential and Gubernatorial candidates in the state to disclose their returns at least 98 days before an election. It had previously passed both the Senate and Assembly along party lines.


Now that SB 27 is law, candidates must file two copies of the five most recent returns with the California Secretary of State’s Office. One copy of the return would be identical to the version filed with the IRS. The other copy would be a redacted version that would be posted to the Secretary of State’s site within five days. The redactions would be reviewed by the Secretary of State to ensure they follow state protocol. Once the election is complete the tax returns will be removed from the website.


The law applies to all Presidential and Gubernatorial candidates, regardless of party affiliation. California’s next election is the primary on March 3.
SEE ALSO: California’s Biggest Cities and Counties May Need to Spend Thousands to Provide Safe Parking for Homeless


California has a number of requirements for those running for other state offices:
  • Permits a person to have their name placed on the ballot as a presidential candidate in the presidential primary election by either determination of the SOS that a person is a generally-recognized candidate or by circulating nomination papers, as specified.
  • Permits an otherwise qualified person to submit a statement of write-in candidacy as a presidential candidate for the presidential primary election, as specified.
  • Requires a candidate for Governor to abide by the following qualifications:
    a) A U.S. citizen;
    b) A registered voter and otherwise qualified to vote for that office at the time that nomination papers are issued to the person;
    c) Not have been convicted of a felony involving accepting or giving, or offering to give, any bribe, the embezzlement of public money, extortion or theft of public money, perjury, or conspiracy to commit any of those crimes; and,
    d) Not have served two terms in the office sought since November 6, 1990.
  • Requires a candidate for state office, no later than the final filing date of a declaration of candidacy, to file a statement disclosing their investments, their interests in real property, and any income received during the immediately preceding 12 months, as specified.
  • Requires an elected state officer, within 30 days after assuming the office, annually thereafter and after leaving office, to file a statement disclosing their investments, their interests in real property held on the date of assuming office, and any income received, as specified.

In 2017, then-candidate Gavin Newsom disclosed six years worth of tax returns while running for Governor.


READ ALSO: New Law Asks California Schools to Ban Smartphones in Classrooms


It has been customary for presidential candidates to release their tax returns, although it isn’t federal law. However, candidates for President and Vice President must disclose certain financial information to the Federal Elections Commission within 30 days of declaring their candidacy. That information contains financial ranges, not specific amounts, and a candidate doesn’t include homes, cars, and federal retirement plans.


California is one of a number of states that introduced legislation requiring candidates to reveal their tax information. A separate federal bill, the For the People Act, is also being debated. That bill would require a candidate to release ten years worth of returns. A question remains of whether this is allowed under the US Constitution. Per the analyses:

Quote:“While the courts have not ruled directly on this question, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled on ballot access requirements for congressional candidates and has held that states and the federal government cannot add to the qualifications of Senator or congressional representatives outlined in the federal Constitution. In 1995, the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton (1995) 514 U.S. 779, held that Arkansas could not deny ballot access to congressional candidates who served more than three terms or to Senate candidates who served more than two terms, essentially striking down measures the state had enacted to create congressional term limits. Furthermore the court ruled that the U.S. Constitution set the exclusive qualifications running for federal office (including age and citizenship requirements), and that states do not have the authority to alter or add to the terms contained in them. The courts have also allowed states the authority to set reasonable conditions for candidates for federal elective office in order to ensure serious candidates appear on the ballot. Such conditions include common mechanisms such as a filing fee or securing a sufficient number of voters’ signatures on a petition. However, such conditions cannot go further and set substantive conditions for who can run. In Storer v. Brown (1974) 415 U.S. 724, 732-733, the court upheld a California law that prohibited an independent candidate from running if he had registered with a party or voted in the preceding party primary and required candidates to complete a petition with 5% of signatures from the preceding general election, as specified. The court upheld the law as it applied to congressional candidates and affirmed that provisions that merely

regulate access to the ballot are constitutionally permissible even though those requirements are not contained in the relevant constitutional Qualifications Clause. In sum, Term Limits stands for the proposition that states cannot use ballot access provisions to add or alter the qualifications for federal elective office, while Storer affirms that provisions that merely regulate access to the ballot are constitutionally permissible.”

In the 2016 election, California had 172 Republican delegates and 551 Democratic delegates (475 pledged and 76 unpledged). The Republican delegates were pledged to support now-President Donald Trump after he won the primary with 74.7% of the vote. John Kasich came in second carrying 11.4% of the vote. In order to secure the Republican nomination for president, a candidate needed to secure a simple majority (1,237) of the 2,472 total delegates. For the Democrats, Hillary Clinton won California’s primary with 53.07% of the vote and secured 320 delegates (254 pledged and 66 unpledged). Senator Bernie Sanders got 46.04% of the vote and earned 221 delegates (221 pledged and 0 unpledged). In 2016, the Democratic candidate for president needed 2,382 of the parties 4,763 delegates to win the nomination.


Governor Jerry Brown vetoed similar legislation in 2017, writing:



Quote:“Although tax returns are by law confidential, many presidential candidates have voluntarily released them. This bill is a response to President Trump’s refusal to release his returns during the last election. While I recognize the political attractiveness — even the merits — of getting President Trump’s tax returns, I worry about the political perils of individual states seeking to regulate presidential elections in this manner.
First, it may not be constitutional. Second, it sets a “slippery slope” precedent. Today we require tax returns, but what would be next? Five years of health records? A certified birth certificate? High school report cards? And will these requirements vary depending on which political party is in power? A qualified candidate’s ability to appear on the ballot is fundamental to our democratic system. For that reason, I hesitate to start down a road that well might lead to an ever escalating set of differing state requirements for presidential candidates.
[Image: giphy.gif]
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
#95
(07-30-2019, 04:33 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/07/30/presidential-tax-return-law/?fbclid=IwAR0TSUYvhhM2TmzfySL-SMGGy5bCdWP6zGAi2hlzZXs-9jUGe78qGkPWwRk

Damn, this means Trump will lose California if this ridiculous bill is upheld. 
[Image: bfine-guns2.png]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#96
(07-30-2019, 05:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Damn, this means Trump will lose California if this ridiculous bill is upheld. 

As the GOP and Moscow Mitch are fund of saying it's up to the states....right?

But all seriousness aside how does it look if someone running for President of the United States simply says he doesn't care to win a state (or even run there) at all?

What does that say to his supporters (few as they may be) there?

No, DJT probably would never win in California but is it good optics to simply say he won't even be on the ballot over his tax returns?

Seems small minded and shortsighted on his part, but then I don't support or defend him.
[Image: giphy.gif]
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
#97
Kamala Harris laughs at a slur that is offensive to disabled people and stated it was "Well said. Well said"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/07/politics/kamala-harris-trump-questioner-offensive-remark/index.html

When called out on it she took the morale high-group and stated "She didn't hear it". She must say "Well said. Well said" to everything she doesn't hear.
[Image: bfine-guns2.png]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]
#98
My honest analysis, as non-biased as I can make it:

Trump has a shot as long as the economy is good. It is not a given (in fact I think it is a bit of a long shot), as he has pissed off a LOT of folks. But if the economy starts to tank before the election, he is gone without a doubt. That is probably the only thing that would cause any significant crumbling in his base supporters.

It is still too early to determine who the Dems will have to oppose him and what they bring to the table. Obama was unknown at this point in 2007 and Trump was thought to be a joke even among Republicans in 2015. That said, their potential candidate could turn out to be another Dukakis. And if that happens, things will completely fly south for them. Still far too early to tell.
[Image: 416686247_404249095282684_84217049823664...e=659A7198]
#99
(09-09-2019, 10:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Kamala Harris laughs at a slur that is offensive to disabled people and stated it was "Well said. Well said"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/07/politics/kamala-harris-trump-questioner-offensive-remark/index.html

When called out on it she took the morale high-group and stated "She didn't hear it". She must say "Well said. Well said" to everything she doesn't hear.

Mellow







All seriousness aside no matter what the reason it happened she was wrong and apologized.  Isn't that refreshing?

Shouldn't we "give her credit" for being able to do that?
[Image: giphy.gif]
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(09-10-2019, 09:26 AM)GMDino Wrote: Mellow







All seriousness aside no matter what the reason it happened she was wrong and apologized.  Isn't that refreshing?

Shouldn't we "give her credit" for being able to do that?

Whataboutisim is great fun. 

As to credit for the apology: None is given; as IMO she lied in her apology and blamed others for being accepting of the word. She should have been forthright in her apology, unless we are to believe that she heard every word in the question except for that one word and was chuckling at another word in the question

I would love for Biden to mention in the next debate to Khamala: "I'm not saying you find mocking the mentally handicapped funny, but....."
[Image: bfine-guns2.png]

[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]





Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)