07-15-2016, 02:33 PM
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Another terrorist attack in France
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07-15-2016, 02:39 PM
(07-15-2016, 12:29 PM)GMDino Wrote: Eliminate religion and jealousy from the human being. Yet... France is the most secular-oriented country in Europe. They have they have the strictest laws to keep religion out of politics and public life. To a certain degree, that is part of the problem for the French and part of the reason they have been targeted by Muslims.
07-15-2016, 02:40 PM
(07-15-2016, 02:39 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Yet... France is the most secular-oriented country in Europe. They have they have the strictest laws to keep religion out of politics and public life. I'm saying no religion at all. Not that it could ever happen. The state doesn't have to sanction it for people to have it. Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
07-15-2016, 02:42 PM
(07-15-2016, 02:10 PM)Benton Wrote: Japan doesn't really exclude Muslims. Who said they exclude them?
07-15-2016, 02:43 PM
(07-15-2016, 02:08 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Don't forget ending all aid to Israel. Sure, if we think it will reduce Terrorism. Why wouldn't I be.
07-15-2016, 02:44 PM
(07-15-2016, 12:11 PM)bfine32 Wrote: They have identified the Terrorist: More: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/07/15/france-nice-attack/87115358/ Quote:French prosecutor Francois Molins said Friday that the driver of a truck that plowed into a crowd of seaside spectators in Nice, killing 84 people, was a Tunisia-born Frenchman who had a petty criminal record but was not known to any intelligence services, local or national, as having links to radicalism. Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
07-15-2016, 02:45 PM
(07-15-2016, 01:55 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: Meh....There's a lot of terrorism tied to the drug trade in Central America and Mexico also. I prefer liberties over securities. I guess my question was more rhetorical and asked in frustration. I'll take securities, but taking liberties sounds better until the Devil's at the door.
07-15-2016, 02:46 PM
(07-15-2016, 02:40 PM)GMDino Wrote: I'm saying no religion at all. Not that it could ever happen. The state doesn't have to sanction it for people to have it. I understand. I'm just saying that the path to secularizing public life and politics in a society (one that I generally support because it is good for the society AND the religions) is filled with danger from blowback from the extremists. Extremism in anything is a danger.
07-15-2016, 02:56 PM
(07-15-2016, 02:46 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I understand. Agree 100%. Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
07-15-2016, 02:57 PM
(07-15-2016, 02:08 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Don't forget ending all aid to Israel. I'm not sure that the Israel issues play so much of a part in the conflict between the West and radical Islam anymore. During the past four or five decades, they surely did and are part of the reason we got to this place. But we have a new history of relations since 9/11 that supersedes that old history: the war in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, the Arab Spring, etc. I believe we could cut off aid to Israel today, and the war radical Islam seeks to wage against the West would continue unabated. The fact is that most Muslims in the world really aren't that concerned about the plight of the Palestinians. Some Muslim nations have even used them as pawns in their own power struggles.
07-15-2016, 03:21 PM
(07-15-2016, 02:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'll take securities, but taking liberties sounds better until the Devil's at the door. I think the devil is already at the door, knocking like Sheldon Cooper on Penny's door. Deceitful, two-faced she-woman. Never trust a female, Delmar, remember that one simple precept and your time with me will not have been ill spent.
07-15-2016, 03:22 PM
(07-15-2016, 07:00 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: I really didn't "want to", but happened across a link and...... the whole train wreck scenario and all. Speaking of train...there's a vid on liveleak where a woman is standing at a train station and as soon as the train is pulling up, she runs over and lays across the tracks. "The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
07-15-2016, 03:33 PM
(07-15-2016, 01:31 PM)GMDino Wrote: Over the course of human history all religions lead to bad sooner or later. Do you always try to put bandaides on severed limbs? "The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
07-15-2016, 03:44 PM
(07-15-2016, 10:57 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: He went to a place where the police presence would be at a higher density than normal and made them an easier target than in other places. That's a tactic for just about every mass shooting I know of. You could argue that his tactics were modified because of the presence of firearms, but it was not a deterrent and he was still effective. I don't live in a state of irrational fear either. Being armed and avoiding places that prevent me from being armed is not irrational fear as much as it is prudence. Since you are so brave, just walk down the streets of Chicago waving money around. Do you think yourself brave or foolish if you did that?
07-15-2016, 03:45 PM
(07-15-2016, 01:31 PM)GMDino Wrote: Over the course of human history all religions lead to bad sooner or later. Over the course of history everything humans have done has led to bad sooner or later. Some things humans do are worse than others but all bad. We can't single out religion... For the 1% religious freaks there are 99% that choose to believe and that is what gets them through their day to day. The radical religions... Different story.
07-15-2016, 04:09 PM
(07-15-2016, 02:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Who said they exclude them? Your link. Quote:Japan is practically closed to Muslims. Quote:As a result, Japan is “a country without Muslims”. Quote:And the most interesting thing in the Japanese approach to Muslims is the fact that the Japanese do not feel any guilt for such a “discriminatory” approach to Islam... As far as who said that, I have no idea. Poorly written article where the author "randomly" uses quote marks "throughout" the story without attribution. Unless it's not "random" and instead used to seem like he's quoting "sources."
07-15-2016, 04:20 PM
(07-15-2016, 04:09 PM)Benton Wrote: Your link. Quote:Officially, immigration to Japan is not closed to Muslims. You might be reaching here and speaking in absolutes to try to disprove a point. Would we agree that Muslim immigration is limited in Japan and those that do come must accept a high degree of assimilation?
07-15-2016, 04:22 PM
(07-15-2016, 01:55 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: Meh....There's a lot of terrorism tied to the drug trade in Central America and Mexico also. I prefer liberties over securities. I guess my question was more rhetorical and asked in frustration. You could always try putting the French Flag over your Facebook avatar; that might work.
07-15-2016, 04:28 PM
(07-15-2016, 03:45 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Over the course of history everything humans have done has led to bad sooner or later. More bad than good in every religion when you consider why they were started in the first place (the real reason they were started)
07-15-2016, 04:36 PM
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