(08-19-2017, 11:30 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Antifa in Boston doing its usual.
So, this was being done by the racist protesters in Charlottesville, not antifa. Some people are jumping to conclusions.
(08-20-2017, 12:17 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Black bloc and antifa run the same playbook.
Doesn't negate you posted fake news.
As for the rest of your stuff, you have posted things that show evidence that antifa are not the only ones protesting against these people and that, according to them, they represent an ideology that is not representative of the vast majority of those protesters against racism. Yet, for some reason, the entire resistance gets lumped in with them. It seems that is what they want, but that isn't the truth. It's interesting to me that the alt-right want to represent the conservative view, and antifa wants to represent the liberal view. Neither one does, and both sides have folks that try to lump everyone on the opposing side in with them.
Side note: I find it interesting that they state anarcho communism being their ideology, but everything else I have read points to a lack of shared ideology.
There is a petition on the White House site to list antifa as a terrorist organization. I don't disagree. I am just concerned that people will continue to attempt lumping all people who protest against racists and are a part of the resistance movement are antifa. That's been my issue all along, is people trying to lump all liberal protesters in with them.
(08-20-2017, 08:38 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: There is a petition on the White House site to list antifa as a terrorist organization. I don't disagree. I am just concerned that people will continue to attempt lumping all people who protest against racists and are a part of the resistance movement are antifa. That's been my issue all along, is people trying to lump all liberal protesters in with them.
Well that would be their goal. its their roundabout way of defending their own Nazi tendencies.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(08-20-2017, 01:03 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Just imagine what would happen if I actually looked at the different feeds from the other official antifa accounts.
But hey they are just "patriots" ...... hahaha.
Anyone who defended these clowns should feel like a jamoke right now unless they just want anarchy and communism. Good job Comrades lol
Personally I feel that anyone who spends more time worrying about the protesters than the Nazis they are protesting against should feel bad about themselves.
Yet here we are....
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
Pro-Confederate march "Dixie Freedom Rally" ....organizers emphasized no racism will be tolerated...to bring American or Confederate flags, legal arms and food donations.
Meanwhile a leftist Socialist group plans a counterprotest to "shut them down".
Encourages violence.
(08-20-2017, 09:19 AM)Vlad Wrote: Pro-Confederate march "Dixie Freedom Rally" ....organizers emphasized no racism will be tolerated...to bring American or Confederate flags, legal arms and food donations.
Meanwhile a leftist Socialist group plans a counterprotest to "shut them down".
What do you think about that Bell and Dino?
I wanted to add a personal note before we head off for the day:
I believe in balance. Moderation is all things. And no violence.
I have been put in the middle of awful situations between two sides too many times to mention where I had to be the voice of reason. Sometimes I agreed with one side over the other. Sometime I agreed with neither side. But every time I tried to bring the two side to a peaceful understanding and help them to see what the other person was trying to say or do.
But I still refuse to side with the Nazis point of view.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(08-20-2017, 09:19 AM)Vlad Wrote: Pro-Confederate march "Dixie Freedom Rally" ....organizers emphasized no racism will be tolerated...to bring American or Confederate flags, legal arms and food donations.
Meanwhile a leftist Socialist group plans a counterprotest to "shut them down". Encourages violence.
Fake news. The article states that the counterprotest group specifically states it does not condone violence. They say they should not report their allies if they do get violent, but they state they do not condone violence.
(08-20-2017, 09:32 AM)GMDino Wrote: I wanted to add a personal note before we head off for the day:
I believe in balance. Moderation is all things. And no violence.
I have been put in the middle of awful situations between two sides too many times to mention where I had to be the voice of reason. Sometimes I agreed with one side over the other. Sometime I agreed with neither side. But every time I tried to bring the two side to a peaceful understanding and help them to see what the other person was trying to say or do.
But I still refuse to side with the Nazis point of view.
Not one person here is "siding with the Nazi's". And most are not siding with the communist enforcers antifa either...... by not treating them the same as the "Nazi's" you give them legitimacy when they are as evil as any white supremecists or domestic terrorist group.
(08-20-2017, 09:03 AM)GMDino Wrote: Personally I feel that anyone who spends more time worrying about the protesters than the Nazis they are protesting against should feel bad about themselves.
Yet here we are....
It's ok comrade. We know where you stand In All this.... pro communists.
(08-20-2017, 11:13 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: It's ok comrade. We know where you stand In All this.... pro communists.
I think this is an example of the problem we are seeing. You seem to be, with comments like this, equating communism with Nazism or white supremacy. Communism is not inherently bad. It may be a misguided theory of how the world should work, but it is not as reprehensible as the racist beliefs of the white supremacist movements. When you come across in that manner, you are doing nothing but creating an environment in which people will defend these groups so that you can play a game of "gotocha!"
(08-20-2017, 07:38 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, this was being done by the racist protesters in Charlottesville, not antifa. Some people are jumping to conclusions.
Doesn't negate you posted fake news.
As for the rest of your stuff, you have posted things that show evidence that antifa are not the only ones protesting against these people and that, according to them, they represent an ideology that is not representative of the vast majority of those protesters against racism. Yet, for some reason, the entire resistance gets lumped in with them. It seems that is what they want, but that isn't the truth. It's interesting to me that the alt-right want to represent the conservative view, and antifa wants to represent the liberal view. Neither one does, and both sides have folks that try to lump everyone on the opposing side in with them.
Side note: I find it interesting that they state anarcho communism being their ideology, but everything else I have read points to a lack of shared ideology.
This is an antifa move. They have done it all over the country. They even did it to Lauren Southern a reporter and countless others.
(08-20-2017, 11:27 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: This is an antifa move. They have done it all over the country. They even did it to Lauren Southern a reporter and countless others.
Notice the Soviet Union flag
And there were alt-right folks doing it in Charlottesville. Is this supposed to somehow dispute what I said?
GOOD MORNING. Someone help me out here. What exactly are these redneck evangelical groups protesting?
I am under the impression that they are just bored drunk rednecks looking for something to do.
What do they mean by "jews will not replace us"?
What change do they want? What are they trying to accomplish?
(08-20-2017, 11:21 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I think this is an example of the problem we are seeing. You seem to be, with comments like this, equating communism with Nazism or white supremacy. Communism is not inherently bad. It may be a misguided theory of how the world should work, but it is not as reprehensible as the racist beliefs of the white supremacist movements. When you come across in that manner, you are doing nothing but creating an environment in which people will defend these groups so that you can play a game of "gotocha!"
I think the millions who have been oppressed and killed by communism worldwide might object.
The only environment I am creating is one that is against white supremecitsts, Nazi's, anarchists, and communists. Now if anyone wants to support any of these groups then please by all means post away.
(08-20-2017, 08:38 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: There is a petition on the White House site to list antifa as a terrorist organization. I don't disagree. I am just concerned that people will continue to attempt lumping all people who protest against racists and are a part of the resistance movement are antifa. That's been my issue all along, is people trying to lump all liberal protesters in with them.
(08-20-2017, 09:01 AM)GMDino Wrote: Well that would be their goal. its their roundabout way of defending their own Nazi tendencies.
The sad thing GMD, is you lack the self-awareness to even recognize what you are/what you do. You just replied to a post about a fear of unjustly lumping people together with a bad group just because people disagree with them... by saying anyone who disagrees with Antifa (and thus your side) has Nazi tendencies. All while pretending you have the moral highground.
(08-19-2017, 09:39 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Even if they are on the same spectrum, they don't share an ideology. The post you are arguing against said that they don't share a unified ideology, and that what unifies the alt-right is racism. You aren't saying anything different than that.
So yes?
You're being excessively nitpicky at what's only minor differences between ANTIFA members and spokespeople. When a group of people fall on the razors edge of one end of a spectrum, what deviations exist aren't relevant and you're going to find more similarities than differences.
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