(09-18-2020, 04:17 PM)muskiesfan Wrote: This logic as a defense for Ross is a joke. It's really old. He's making $5.5m to be a decoy? He sucks at everything else. You're telling me we couldn't get a fast cost for a fraction of the cost? I'd be we could get a fast guy for a fraction of the cost that actually contributed.
Ross brings jack shit to the team. He's an experiment that hasn't paid off and is honestly a waste to continue to try. He hasn't lived up to his draft position, paycheck, or anything. The Bengals are even dumber than originally thought if they drafted someone with the #9 pick to "clear out space" for the rest of the offense.
(09-18-2020, 01:37 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: This is poor from Tate.
Ross is our only speed guy & serves a function even when not getting the ball. Plus he only played 28 snaps. AJ & Boyd are 1,000 yard guys. Erickson is the #2 slot guy. Thomas played well.
I say make him a TE.
You can have all the speed in the world, but if you ain't catching the ball you ain't scaring the defense or pulling a safety.
(09-18-2020, 04:20 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Tate got all that training camp hype when Green, Higgens, and Ross were not even playing.
NFL coaches' jobs depend on them winning. Why the hell would they keep better players on the bench?
So coaches never make mistakes in player evaluations? Some guys can turn into gamers even if they don’t always impress in practice. I don’t see a downside to sitting Ross and giving his snaps to Tate at this point. Ross had 0 catches in a game Burrow threw for over 300 yds. He is a non-factor right now.
(09-18-2020, 04:22 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Ross was MORE productive than Tate last year.
You're arguing something I never even discussed. What I responded to was that Ross' main job is to clear out space for the rest of the team. I said that joke is old. You don't waste the #9 pick of the draft on a guy to clear space for the rest of the team. You certainly don't also pay them $5.5m a year if that is the main thing they contribute to the team.
Since you want to argue something I never even addressed, here's a question for you. Look at these numbers
3 seasons + 2 games of 2020 - 51 rec, 733 yds, 10 TD
2 seasons + 1 game of 2020 - 44 rec, 644 yds, 1 TD
After looking at those numbers, would you say that either of those players were worthy of the #9 pick of the draft? Is either worth $5.5m? If you weren't a Bengals fan and didn't know which was which, wouldn't you assume they were both late round picks?
Ross gets more excuses made for him than anyone. The guy is a joke. The fact that he was taken so high should've cost someone their job.
(09-18-2020, 04:23 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: You can have all the speed in the world, but if you ain't catching the ball you ain't scaring the defense or pulling a safety.
Ya, this dude just isn't a football player. That's the problem. No drive or love for the game..
(09-18-2020, 04:51 PM)muskiesfan Wrote: You're arguing something I never even discussed. What I responded to was that Ross' main job is to clear out space for the rest of the team. I said that joke is old. You don't waste the #9 pick of the draft on a guy to clear space for the rest of the team. You certainly don't also pay them $5.5m a year if that is the main thing they contribute to the team.
Since you want to argue something I never even addressed, here's a question for you. Look at these numbers
3 seasons + 2 games of 2020 - 51 rec, 733 yds, 10 TD
2 seasons + 1 game of 2020 - 44 rec, 644 yds, 1 TD
After looking at those numbers, would you say that either of those players were worthy of the #9 pick of the draft? Is either worth $5.5m? If you weren't a Bengals fan and didn't know which was which, wouldn't you assume they were both late round picks?
Ross gets more excuses made for him than anyone. The guy is a joke. The fact that he was taken so high should've cost someone their job.
(09-18-2020, 03:29 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I mean, he's returned it twice and last night was a fair catch in his only attempt.
Can't make that call with such a small sample size.
He wasn't great last year as a PR either.
He was 12th in the league out of 15 "eligible" players for yards per return (6.3). Eligibility = 1+ PRs per game.
10th best PR averaged 7.6 YPR, while the leader was at 12.4.
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(09-18-2020, 04:23 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: You can have all the speed in the world, but if you ain't catching the ball you ain't scaring the defense or pulling a safety.
Ross caught the same % of his targets last year as Tate(50%). He's not good, but he plays a role in the offense that we don't really have anyone else to fill.
If it was me, Thomas has shown enough the first couple of games to be the number 3 WR. AJ has been awful and Higgins should get the bulk of his snaps until if/when he rounds back into form. I would try to move Tate for a NT or a TE now that Uzomah is done for the year.
(09-18-2020, 06:08 PM)ochocincos Wrote: He wasn't great last year as a PR either.
He was 12th in the league out of 15 "eligible" players for yards per return (6.3). Eligibility = 1+ PRs per game.
10th best PR averaged 7.6 YPR, while the leader was at 12.4.
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