Bengals players considering silent protest

[Bengalholic]

(09-10-2020, 02:43 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: I'm glad you feel that way, and I truly hope you enjoy this season as much as any other season in the past.

No fans, kneeling/protesting, social justice BS on the field and on uniforms.  For me it detracts from football significantly.  This is the first time in my life i'm not excited about football.  I still paid for Sunday Ticket so I can watch the Bengals, but that will probably be the only football I watch this year and if the Bengals start with all this social justice crap it will probably be the last.

I'm excited for the season regardless of what the players/organization chooses to do as far as making social/political statements. Hell, I didn't let the years of epic suckitude or players getting arrested left and right turn me away, so them doing well-intentioned things (whether you think they should be or not) sure as hell won't keep me from watching. 

[Mickeypoo]

(09-10-2020, 02:46 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Maybe if you got some of your like minded peons together as a group and protested your employer's business practices maybe you wouldn't have to just shut up and take it?

But, you might risk losing your job.  Like these players.

And what business practices is the NFL partaking in that needs to be protested?  An employer has a right to set reasonable guidelines for it's employees behavior so as not to alienate its customers and put itself out of business.

The players are not protesting their employers bad practices, they are hijacking their employer to promote a BS SJW message.  

What about the players that don't agree?  Where is their on the field/uni message?  

What other messages can we paint on the field/uni.  How about "Abortion kills", All Lives Matter", etc.  Oh right, it's only the liberal SJW victims that get that right.

Didn't take long for the mob to show up.  lmao!   Peace

[fredtoast]

(09-10-2020, 02:33 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: It's funny how us peons have to go to work and just shut up about politics or face HR, but elite athletes getting paid huge money can take over their employer.

They could not force their employers to do anything.  This was voluntary move by the teams and league.

Back when the league made decisions you agreed with you had  no problem.  But now that you don't agree with their decision you are losing it.

People who stop watching football because they cant tolerate anyone who disagrees with them are basically punching themselves in the face because they are so thin skinned.

I don't agree with players who point to the sky after they score or thank god for their performance on the field, but since it does not effect the game in any way I don't give a shit.  The high school that my kids attend actually still have a pre-game prayer.  I don't agree with that at all, but again I am not going to deprive myself of enjoyment  because of it.  Too many people on the right are just too hyper-sensitive.  They need to grow thicker skin.

[bengaloo]

Personally I think the silent protests are kind of lame. There are waaaaaaay better ways to go about addressing issues within our culture. Its not that I dont think we face real issues, I just think this is a poor way of going about it. Trying to raise awareness lol? Please show me a single person who isnt already more than aware of this movement and I'll give you a dollar lol. I think what is going to happen, is people are going to turn it off. The truth is, the voting population vs the rest of the population shows that only a small % of people are really political at all. Keep putting this in ppls faces and they will turn it off. If that is what the players really want, then so-be-it. If they want to actually make a difference though, I suggest they use some of the millions they have to go into the worst areas and help in a more hands on way, and more importantly, look at the leadership in the worst areas and address them. But if they really want their sports to lose demographics, support and money, then they should by-all-means protest at the games and keep putting it in peoples faces.

I dont care either way. Ill be paying attention to my Bengals, but thats about as far as my viewership will go until this blows over after the election.

[fredtoast]

(09-10-2020, 03:27 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: And what business practices is the NFL partaking in that needs to be protested?  An employer has a right to set reasonable guidelines for it's employees behavior so as not to alienate its customers and put itself out of business.

The players are not protesting their employers bad practices, they are hijacking their employer to promote a BS SJW message.  

They are not hijacking anything.  Their employers agree to do this.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(09-10-2020, 03:27 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: And what business practices is the NFL partaking in that needs to be protested?  An employer has a right to set reasonable guidelines for it's employees behavior so not to alienate its customers and put itself out of business.

The players are not protesting their employers bad practices, they are hijacking their employer to promote a BS SJW message.  

What about the players that don't agree?  Where is their on the field/uni message?  

What other messages can we paint on the field/uni.  How about "Abortion kills", All Lives Matter", etc.  Oh right, it's only the liberal SJW victims that get that right.

Didn't take long for the mob to show up.  lmao!   Peace

I'm one person.  Hardly a mob.

You're the one who suggested peons like us had to go to work and shut up if you tried to do what the players are doing.  So wouldn't you direct your protest at your boss for telling you to shut up and take it?

The commissioner is the owner's spokesperson.  What has he had to say?

https://deadline.com/2020/06/nfl-commissioer-roger-goodell-handled-kneeling-protests-we-were-wrong-1202952466/

"We were wrong."

I guess that's why NFL players don't have to shut up and take it like you and me.

[fredtoast]

(09-10-2020, 03:43 PM)bengaloo Wrote:  The truth is, the voting population vs the rest of the population shows that only a small % of people are really political at all. Keep putting this in ppls faces and they will turn it off. .

The people who don't care about politics won't turn it off because they don't care and it does not effect the game in any way.

The only people squealing about never watching the NFL again are people that care a lot about right wing politics.

[Bengalholic]

(09-10-2020, 03:27 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: And what business practices is the NFL partaking in that needs to be protested?  An employer has a right to set reasonable guidelines for it's employees behavior so as not to alienate its customers and put itself out of business.

The players are not protesting their employers bad practices, they are hijacking their employer to promote a BS SJW message.  

What about the players that don't agree?  Where is their on the field/uni message?  

What other messages can we paint on the field/uni.  How about "Abortion kills", All Lives Matter", etc.  Oh right, it's only the liberal SJW victims that get that right.

Didn't take long for the mob to show up.  lmao!   Peace

In the case of the Bengals, they had a series of what was reported as very emotional meetings, where it was said that everyone had a say and all views were heard. They weren't going to do anything unless it's something everyone agreed on and could be done in unison. Apparently, they figured out something that everyone could get behind, which is the way I think it should be done if they're going to do something.

[bengaloo]

(09-10-2020, 03:46 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The people who don't care about politics won't turn it off because they don't care and it does not effect the game in any way.

The only people squealing about never watching the NFL again are people that care a lot about right wing politics.

I totally disagree with that in a big way. My sister for instance, doesnt vote at all, but is sick of this already and is turning it off. Shes not supporting any of her teams this year. I know many others who feel the same, and arent right wingers. Your view is biased... but you are entitled to it. In fact, I dont vote, and I'm sick of it lol. I come from a half black half white family and we are ALL sick of it.....

[Mickeypoo]

(09-10-2020, 03:42 PM)fredtoast Wrote: They could not force their employers to do anything.  This was voluntary move by the teams and league.

Back when the league made decisions you agreed with you had  no problem.  But now that you don't agree with their decision you are losing it.

People who stop watching football because they cant tolerate anyone who disagrees with them are basically punching themselves in the face because they are so thin skinned.

I don't agree with players who point to the sky after they score or thank god for their performance on the field, but since it does not effect the game in any way I don't give a shit.  The high school that my kids attend actually still have a pre-game prayer.  I don't agree with that at all, but again I am not going to deprive myself of enjoyment  because of it.  Too many people on the right are just too hyper-sensitive.  They need to grow thicker skin.

They could not force their employers to do anything.  This was voluntary move by the teams and league.

***Right, because the league didn't feel any pressure.  Why is it all "left" messaging?  I thought the left wanted inclusivity?


Back when the league made decisions you agreed with you had  no problem.  But now that you don't agree with their decision you are losing it.

***What are you talking about?  What decisions?  I just want sports and SJW/Politics separated.

People who stop watching football because they cant tolerate anyone who disagrees with them are basically punching themselves in the face because they are so thin skinned.

***You don't know anything about me.  Not wanting to see SJW/Politics invade the sports I watch does not make me thin skinned.  I am a pretty emotionless guy who gets offended by nothing and couldn't care less what anybody says about me.  I think you need to look to the left who want to erase history, riot, protest conservative speakers, needs reparations and on and on in order to move forward -- that is thin skinned.

I don't agree with players who point to the sky after they score or thank god for their performance on the field, but since it does not effect the game in any way I don't give a shit.  The high school that my kids attend actually still have a pre-game prayer.  I don't agree with that at all, but again I am not going to deprive myself of enjoyment  because of it.  Too many people on the right are just too hyper-sensitive.  They need to grow thicker skin.


***Good for you.  Here is your "I'm more awesome than you" sticker.  Congrats.  I can barely stop laughing at your assertion that the right is hyper sensitive!  Are you blind to what is happening right now and how the left is behaving?  Students and "educated" adults can't even handle a conservative speaker like Ben freakin' Shapiro without losing their collective s!@t, but the right is hyper sensitive?    lmfao!!!!

[Mickeypoo]

(09-10-2020, 03:51 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: In the case of the Bengals, they had a series of what was reported as very emotional meetings, where it was said that everyone had a say and all views were heard. They weren't going to do anything unless it's something everyone agreed on and could be done in unison. Apparently, they figured out something that everyone could get behind, which is the way I think it should be done if they're going to do something.

I am glad to hear that is how they addressed it.  I still disagree with any of it in sports.

[Bengalholic]

(09-10-2020, 04:20 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: I am glad to hear that is how they addressed it.  I still disagree with any of it in sports.

I disagree with in-video advertising during my porn time, but I be damned if I allow it to stop me from being 'entertained'. 

[Mickeypoo]

(09-10-2020, 04:30 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I disagree with in-video advertising during my porn time, but I be damned if I allow it to stop me from being 'entertained'. 

Now that is funny!!!

[fredtoast]

(09-10-2020, 04:13 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote:   I am a pretty emotionless guy who gets offended by nothing 

Yeah.  Sure you are.  We can tell by your commenst

(09-10-2020, 02:19 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Sports can piss off with all their political and social justice BS. 

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

What’s the difference between justice and social justice?

[Mickeypoo]

(09-10-2020, 04:47 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Yeah.  Sure you are.  We can tell by your commenst

Think what you want Fred.  Just because i said that doesn't me i'm all emotional or offended by it.  It's just a matter of fact statement.  
 

[Mickeypoo]

(09-10-2020, 04:54 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: What’s the difference between justice and social justice?

https://mises.org/wire/justice-versus-social-justice

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(09-10-2020, 05:42 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: https://mises.org/wire/justice-versus-social-justice

Thank you.

Which one of your rights has been taken away by Colin Kaepernick?

[*bfine32*]

(09-10-2020, 11:10 AM)fredtoast Wrote: It does not matter because many people who have had friends and loved ones come home with a flag draped over their coffin have no problem with players kneeling during the anthem.

I am not saying you are not entitled to your own opinion.  But you don't speak for all those people.

i was just explaining to dude why some folks care about folks kneeling. 

Is it fair for some to say "My kneeling is not about disrespecting the flag; it's about equal justice?"

Is it fair for others to say "My considering your kneeling to be disrespectful to the flag has nothing to do with your cries for equal justice?"

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

I wasn’t familiar with The Mises Institute so I did some reading.

Quote: In other words, blood and soil and God and nation still matter to people. Libertarians ignore this at the risk of irrelevance.

https://mises.org/wire/new-libertarian

You might want to choose your sources more wisely in the future.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_soil