Cloned Humans

[StLucieBengal]

(07-01-2015, 07:29 PM)Belsnickel Wrote:

Clone club

[BmorePat87]

(07-01-2015, 07:11 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Twins are split from 1 egg.  Clones are made with a foreign egg implanted by a donor dna.
Identical twins are also same age.  Clones are not.

So what you're saying is that it would be even EASIER to differentiate between clones than twins?

[StLucieBengal]

(07-01-2015, 10:15 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: So what you're saying is that it would be even EASIER to differentiate between clones than twins?

3.5 out of 1000 births are identical twins. They are extremely limited by Mother Nature. Clones would be limitless, so the comparason isn't realistic.

Apples to oranges.

[BmorePat87]

(07-01-2015, 10:40 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: 3.5 out of 1000 births are identical twins.   They are extremely limited by Mother Nature.    Clones would be limitless, so the comparason isn't realistic.  

Apples to oranges.

If apples and oranges had identical DNA.

[StLucieBengal]

(07-01-2015, 10:44 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: If apples and oranges had identical DNA.

You could have billions of clones every 9 months. Can't even come close to getting that many identical twins in the same period.

[*Nately120*]

(07-01-2015, 10:48 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: You could have billions of clones every 9 months.   Can't even come close to getting that many identical twins in the same period.

So you are saying we can't do this because people are going to misuse it and take it to dangerous extremes?

[StLucieBengal]

(07-02-2015, 12:09 AM)Nately120 Wrote: So you are saying we can't do this because people are going to misuse it and take it to dangerous extremes?

Idk.... But the potential level of corruption and shenanigans is extremely high.

Not sure it's worth the risk is all.

[*Nately120*]

(07-02-2015, 01:05 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Idk....  But the potential level of corruption and shenanigans is extremely high.  

Not sure it's worth the risk is all.

But if we outlaw cloning then only outlaws will have clones.

[Benton]

(07-01-2015, 10:15 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: So what you're saying is that it would be even EASIER to differentiate between clones than twins?

Wouldn't it be?

Science isn't my strong suit, but if you're using someone's DNA to create a clone, it wouldn't necessarily develop all the same characteristics, but would just have the potential to, right?

[BmorePat87]

(07-01-2015, 10:48 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: You could have billions of clones every 9 months.   Can't even come close to getting that many identical twins in the same period.

Unless you're building a clone army, I don't think we have to worry about someone making a ton of clones. It would also be like any other birth and have to be recorded.

[fredtoast]

(07-01-2015, 10:40 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: 3.5 out of 1000 births are identical twins.   They are extremely limited by Mother Nature.    Clones would be limitless, so the comparason isn't realistic.  

Apples to oranges.

What does the number have to do with being able to tell them apart?

Apples to bazookas.

[fredtoast]

(07-02-2015, 09:59 AM)Nately120 Wrote: But if we outlaw cloning then only outlaws will have clones.

Rep.

Once again Lucy wants to limit our freedoms.  He loves gig government control so much that he wants it to be able to tell us if we can clone ourselves or not.

[*Nately120*]

(07-01-2015, 02:22 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The Cloned Nately's

I already used this stupid idea for my second album cover:

[Beaker]

(06-30-2015, 09:17 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Cloned or born naturally, they are a human that is afforded the same rights as everyone else. They would not be the property of someone else.

Cloned humans are born naturally. Its the conception that is different. DNA is inserted into an egg cell, which is then implanted into the uterus of a female to develop naturally. The baby would be born just like any other human baby.

Clones would be humans just like any other person. Although most people believe they would be copies of someone in all aspects. But that simply isn't true. They would look exactly like someone else, but having been born in a later time, raised in ways that were different than the DNA donor, and having different experiences, they would be completely different people. But, as some have pointed out already, it would change law enforcement since DNA analysis would no longer be a foolproof method of ID.

[*Nately120*]

(07-02-2015, 01:45 PM)Beaker Wrote: Cloned humans are born naturally. Its the conception that is different. DNA is inserted into an egg cell, which is then implanted into the uterus of a female to develop naturally. The baby would be born just like any other human baby.

Clones would be humans just like any other person. Although most people believe they would be copies of someone in all aspects. But that simply isn't true. They would look exactly like someone else, but having been born in a later time, raised in ways that were different than the DNA donor, and having different experiences, they would be completely different people. But, as some have pointed out already, it would change law enforcement since DNA analysis would no longer be a foolproof method of ID.

People seem to think clones are going to just pop out of some sort of generator and be soulless beings that will just run amok like robots missing the prime directive...or something.  The idea that a clone of me, a 33 year old schlub who is sitting on this message board instead of doing his job, would become some sort of maniacal, emotionless assassin is just science fiction (and poorly written science fiction, at that).

[Beaker]

(07-02-2015, 01:47 PM)Nately120 Wrote: a clone of me, a 33 year old schlub who is sitting on this message board instead of doing his job

We certainly don't want more of those. Like fred says, there aren't enough good jobs already for the people who want them.

[*Nately120*]

(07-02-2015, 01:50 PM)Beaker Wrote: We certainly don't want more of those. Like fred says, there aren't enough good jobs already for the people who want them.

Yea, no one mentioned the clones flooding the labor pool.  Then again, people against this don't seem to think "clone" so much as a magic teleporter that brings a zillion copies of a person into the world immediately and unleashes a wave of destruction upon society, because of course they do.

[fredtoast]

(07-02-2015, 01:45 PM)Beaker Wrote:  Although most people believe they would be copies of someone in all aspects. But that simply isn't true. They would look exactly like someone else, but having been born in a later time, raised in ways that were different than the DNA donor, and having different experiences, they would be completely different people.

In fact things as simple as the diet of the woman carrying the fetus could make them very different from the DNA donor.

[StLucieBengal]

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