EU army to be formed, in Show of Post Brexit unity

[Au165]

(11-13-2017, 03:37 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So bloc’s of nations forming armies is a good thing?   I guess we have all forgotten about the USSR.  

There is no threat where an EU army is needed.    The Russians aren’t marching into Europe.    

All this is doing to consolidating power under the Germans.   And their patsies.... The French.

This has some weird ethnic undertones that I am trying to follow, but this seems like a really bad troll attempt.

[GMDino]

(11-13-2017, 03:37 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So bloc’s of nations forming armies is a good thing?   I guess we have all forgotten about the USSR.  

There is no threat where an EU army is needed.    The Russians aren’t marching into Europe.    

All this is doing to consolidating power under the Germans.   And their patsies.... The French.

Did I wake up in 1945?

[*michaelsean*]

(11-13-2017, 03:49 PM)GMDino Wrote: Did I wake up in 1945?

Ill give you all the World Series winners. We will be rich. Just put my money where nobody will find it for the next 72 years and I’ll go pick it up. Throw some Mantle rookie cards in there too. Sorry you’re dead now.

[Benton]

(11-13-2017, 03:37 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So bloc’s of nations forming armies is a good thing?   I guess we have all forgotten about the USSR.  

There is no threat where an EU army is needed.    The Russians aren’t marching into Europe.    

All this is doing to consolidating power under the Germans.   And their patsies.... The French.

Well,  Russia is one of the world's largest militaries. It's currently close (don't know if I would fully agree with allied, but close) with China, which also has a very large military.

Which was OK for the last 40+ years because you had crazy America over there, thwarting the Russians and Communism. Want America's intervention, or just buttloads of American weaponry? Just mention "Russian involvement" and BAM, someone from the CIA will come to your country with an intel packet and cases of unmarked dollars to fund your guerrilla war.

And that worked.... until last year. Everybody waved at Russia and said "you aren't going to do anything, because the US has you locked down." Then Trump announced his plan to run for POTUS, the same Trump that spent years fellatiating Putin for his tough stances and man-sized hands. It didn't help when Trump went on TV and asked for Russia's help in the election... and somebody did what he asked for. There's also plenty of connections between Trump's people and Russia, like nesting dolls of corruption.

So, for the international community, you've got the one stop gap to keep Russia in check — the United States — with business ties and debt to one of Russia's biggest buddies (China) and the leader of that stop gap grabbing his ankles for the Russian bear. If Russia is going to make a play for anything, their time is now.

The EU forming a military force most likely would've happened anyway. Trump's inability to be diplomatic and his connections to Russia gave them any necessary leverage to go forward with less reservations.

[StLucieBengal]

(11-13-2017, 04:07 PM)Benton Wrote: Well,  Russia is one of the world's largest militaries. It's currently close (don't know if I would fully agree with allied, but close) with China, which also has a very large military.

Which was OK for the last 40+ years because you had crazy America over there, thwarting the Russians and Communism. Want America's intervention, or just buttloads of American weaponry? Just mention "Russian involvement" and BAM, someone from the CIA will come to your country with an intel packet and cases of unmarked dollars to fund your guerrilla war.

And that worked.... until last year. Everybody waved at Russia and said "you aren't going to do anything, because the US has you locked down." Then Trump announced his plan to run for POTUS, the same Trump that spent years fellatiating Putin for his tough stances and man-sized hands. It didn't help when Trump went on TV and asked for Russia's help in the election... and somebody did what he asked for. There's also plenty of connections between Trump's people and Russia, like nesting dolls of corruption.

So, for the international community, you've got the one stop gap to keep Russia in check — the United States — with business ties and debt to one of Russia's biggest buddies (China) and the leader of that stop gap grabbing his ankles for the Russian bear. If Russia is going to make a play for anything, their time is now.

The EU forming a military force most likely would've happened anyway. Trump's inability to be diplomatic and his connections to Russia gave them any necessary leverage to go forward with less reservations.

So where is Russia marching into Europe?

And why does the eu need to control an army of its own? This is just power consolidation under the Germans. They pull the strings at the EU and will continue to do so in regards to an EU army.

[StLucieBengal]

(11-13-2017, 03:49 PM)GMDino Wrote: Did I wake up in 1945?

You will if Europe keeps blindly giving power, control, and now an army to the Germans.

[GMDino]

(11-13-2017, 04:22 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: You will if Europe keeps blindly giving power, control, and now an army to the Germans.

Yet we can't agree on neo-nazis being bad in THIS country.  Weird.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(11-13-2017, 04:21 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So where is Russia marching into Europe?

And why does the eu need to control an army of its own? This is just power consolidation under the Germans. They pull the strings at the EU and will continue to do so in regards to an EU army.

Ukraine? Crimea? Georgia?

If you check Fox News you'll learn the US has been deploying troops to Eastern Europe in response to Russian troop movements.

Three brigades by this winter.

[StLucieBengal]

(11-13-2017, 06:45 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Ukraine? Crimea? Georgia?

If you check Fox News you'll learn the US has been deploying troops to Eastern Europe in response to Russian troop movements.

Three brigades by this winter.

The majority of Ukraine east of Kiev want a good relationship shop with Russia. Crimea voted to go to Russia. Kiev is the only Real area pushing to be part of Europe. Kharkiv is very pro Russia.

The reality is if you had a vote In most of these former Soviet states they would vote for a trade union with Russia again.

Georgia was a different deal. Odd place

Since everyone here now loves trade unions that form their own collective armies then why not allow these former Soviet states to come together and have common defense.

[StLucieBengal]

(11-13-2017, 04:37 PM)GMDino Wrote: Yet we can't agree on neo-nazis being bad in THIS country.  Weird.

Your Neo Nazi’s in this country aren’t trying to take over Central America. The Germans are trying to control Europe. Big difference.

[Belsnickel]

(11-13-2017, 07:39 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The majority of Ukraine east of Kiev want a good relationship shop with Russia. Crimea voted to go to Russia. Kiev is the only Real area pushing to be part of Europe. Kharkiv is very pro Russia.

The reality is if you had a vote In most of these former Soviet states they would vote for a trade union with Russia again.

Georgia was a different deal. Odd place

Since everyone here now loves trade unions that form their own collective armies then why not allow these former Soviet states to come together and have common defense.

Fine by me. If the people want it, then more power to them. Honestly, I'd be happier if they would just stop pretending they didn't want to reform the USSR.

[StLucieBengal]

(11-13-2017, 07:45 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Fine by me. If the people want it, then more power to them. Honestly, I'd be happier if they would just stop pretending they didn't want to reform the USSR.

Just what the world needs. The Soviet Union and the European Union in the hands of the Germans. Once he Chinese move to a Pacific Union in their controls then it should be easy for them all to leverage us.

[Belsnickel]

(11-13-2017, 07:55 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Just what the world needs. The Soviet Union and the European Union in the hands of the Germans. Once he Chinese move to a Pacific Union in their controls then it should be easy for them all to leverage us.

But remember, we are putting American first and so they can do as they please while we focus on our protectionist policies. All joking aside, that is what happens. If we aren't being a part of these agreements, then we get left out and leveraged against. Who are we to say what other countries can and can't do with regard to these trade partnerships and so forth?

[StLucieBengal]

(11-13-2017, 08:02 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: But remember, we are putting American first and so they can do as they please while we focus on our protectionist policies. All joking aside, that is what happens. If we aren't being a part of these agreements, then we get left out and leveraged against. Who are we to say what other countries can and can't do with regard to these trade partnerships and so forth?

How about we just not support the EU. He same way we didn’t support the Soviet Union. Let nations be themselves. We should be pushing for this around the world.

The exact same way we pushed for the Soviet states.

[BmorePat87]

When will Europeans learn that youtube and breitbart know more about their plight against socialist Germany and radical Islam than they do? Only then will they be able to accept the salvation of the Alpha Male Putin. Neckbeards and the friend zoned, rejoice. His message will soon spread to the states thanks to 4chan and Red Pill.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(11-13-2017, 07:39 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The majority of Ukraine east of Kiev want a good relationship shop with Russia. Crimea voted to go to Russia. Kiev is the only Real area pushing to be part of Europe. Kharkiv is very pro Russia.

The reality is if you had a vote In most of these former Soviet states they would vote for a trade union with Russia again.

Georgia was a different deal. Odd place

Fact is these are recent Russian military incursions.

Quote:Since everyone here now loves trade unions that form their own collective armies then why not allow these former Soviet states to come together and have common defense.

Progressive.

[StLucieBengal]

(11-13-2017, 08:56 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Fact is these are recent Russian military incursions.


Progressive.

I will give you Georgia.

Ukraine isn’t cut and dry though. It’s an odd situation where most of the country would prefer to go back with Russia. From our perspective yes it’s an incursion but from the eastern and central Ukrainian POV it’s not that way at all.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(11-13-2017, 01:10 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.euractiv.com/section/defence-policy/news/eu-to-sign-joint-defence-pact-in-show-of-post-brexit-unity/

The Germans now getting their army.

I can’t copy this properly and post the entire article. If someone else could I would appreciate. Thanks in advance.

In addition to being unable to copy and paste the article, you apparently can't comprehend what any of it means.

[Belsnickel]

(11-15-2017, 10:54 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: In addition to being unable to copy and paste the article, you apparently can't comprehend what any of it means.

Seriously, could you get off of Lucie's nuts? I get it, I find a lot of things he post to be terrible as well, but most of what you post in this forum is just searching out for his posts and commenting on them, him, or bringing up old arguments. It's toxic to the environment in this subforum. I have no issues with commenting on him not understanding what is going on, as evidenced from my own posts in this thread, but it is rare that you engage in any conversation here other than that.

If this is a rules violation, let me know. Just felt like it needed to be said.

[Au165]

(11-15-2017, 11:06 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Seriously, could you get off of Lucie's nuts? I get it, I find a lot of things he post to be terrible as well, but most of what you post in this forum is just searching out for his posts and commenting on them, him, or bringing up old arguments. It's toxic to the environment in this subforum. I have no issues with commenting on him not understanding what is going on, as evidenced from my own posts in this thread, but it is rare that you engage in any conversation here other than that.

If this is a rules violation, let me know. Just felt like it needed to be said.

Am I the only one that thought this was a spoof account at first with the new avatar and all?