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House Speaker Ongoing Melodrama
Oh.   Mellow

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So slavery is ok, stoning, abortions, etc.  Ninja
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(10-27-2023, 01:02 PM)GMDino Wrote: Oh.   Mellow

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So slavery is ok, stoning, abortions, etc.  Ninja

So he'll be totally okay with me bashing his head in for wearing that suit because you KNOW it's mixed fabric.
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(10-27-2023, 01:04 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: So he'll be totally okay with me bashing his head in for wearing that suit because you KNOW it's mixed fabric.

His reply just makes me SMH.....


Separately, I think it's funny we can say the Palestinian/Israel conflict was talked to death at like 13 pages yet this lame topic is 23 pages.  :)
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(10-27-2023, 11:16 PM)basballguy Wrote: His reply just makes me SMH.....


Separately, I think it's funny we can say the Palestinian/Israel conflict was talked to death at like 13 pages yet this lame topic is 23 pages.  :)

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https://www.rawstory.com/johnson-wife-counseling/


Quote:Mike Johnson's wife's counseling service compares homosexuality with bestiality: report

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The wife of newly elected House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) runs a counseling business that deems such acts as adultery, fornication, homosexuality, along with bestiality, and incest as "sinful and offensive to God," according to a report by the Huffington Post.

Kelly Johnson runs the Onward Christian Counseling Services, which preaches Bible-based pastoral counseling.
According to the outlet, the company's website features a link to an eight-page operating agreement that it published in full.

The document that was signed on July 1, 2017, breaks down the company's corporate bylaws such as treating the Bible as the "ultimate authority of the company," marriage is defined as having "only one meaning and that is marriage sanctioned by God which joins one man and one woman in a single, exclusive union, as delineated in Scripture."



It also seems to preach tolerance.


"We believe that every person must be afforded compassion, love, kindness, respect, and dignity," according to the document. "Hateful and harassing behavior or attitudes directed toward any individual are to be repudiated and are not in accord with Scripture nor the doctrines of the Company."

Yet its tenor of acceptance appears to be at odds with certain acts that are considered unforgivable.


“We believe and the Bible teaches that any form of sexual immorality, such as adultery, fornication, homosexuality, bisexual conduct, bestiality, incest, pornography or any attempt to change one’s sex, or disagreement with one’s biological sex, is sinful and offensive to God,” the document reads, according to the Huffington Post.


Raw Story cannot independently verify the document's inclusion on the website because it appeared to be offline or nonfunctioning as of Friday night. Its Facebook page remains live but seems to have languished since March 2022 when the couple posted a podcast titled "Can America Be Saved?"

Huffington Post didn't receive a comment when they attempted to reach a Johnson spokeswoman.


Speaker Johnson has already come under some criticism for criticizing homosexuality.

According to a 2005 op-ed dug up by CNN’s KFile Johnson wrote: "Your race, creed, and sex are what you are, while homosexuality and cross-dressing are things you do.""

“This is a free country, but we don’t give special protections for every person’s bizarre choices.”


He also wrote, “Homosexual relationships are inherently unnatural and, the studies clearly show, are ultimately harmful and costly for everyone... Polygamists, polyamorists, pedophiles, and others will be next in line to claim equal protection."


"They already are. There will be no legal basis to deny a bisexual the right to marry a partner of each sex, or a person to marry his pet.”

On an appearance with Fox News' Sean Hannity, Speaker Johnson expressed how he lives and breathes his faith.


“Go pick up a Bible off your shelf and read it, that’s my worldview,” he said to the conservative host. “That’s what I believe, and so I make no apologies for it.”


But wait...there's more.

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At least we can listen to his podcasts to get his thoughts...and he deleted them.

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But someone was smart and saved them first...lol
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We look around us and the world is going to hell literally. Faith is God has deteriorated to record lows. I think the 2 are linked. Sadly many in here have no faith in God, but I pray some day you will understand Jesus dies for our (your) sins, we are all sinners, but we can be redeemed.

The day I accepted Jesus died for my sins, then was resurrected was the day my life changed. I will never waiver from my faith and I will continue to ask God to be a better person tomorrow than I was today because I know I am a sinner and will always be a sinner. My excuse for not accepting God was I knew I made many mistakes and was far from perfect so I did not want to appear as a hypocrite. But, I learned being a child of God will never make me perfect.

Mike Johnson represents my Christian values, he too is not perfect. People can spew hate towards religion and people who have strong relationships with God, but hate never makes us better people, just the opposite,

May God bless you all.
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(10-28-2023, 12:18 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: We look around us and the world is going to hell literally. Faith is God has deteriorated to record lows. I think the 2 are linked. Sadly many in here have no faith in God, but I pray some day you will understand Jesus dies for our (your) sins, we are all sinners, but we can be redeemed.

The day I accepted Jesus died for my sins, then was resurrected was the day my life changed. I will never waiver from my faith and I will continue to ask God to be a better person tomorrow than I was today because I know I am a sinner and will always be a sinner. My excuse for not accepting God was I knew I made many mistakes and was far from perfect so I did not want to appear as a hypocrite. But, I learned being a child of God will never make me perfect.

Mike Johnson represents my Christian values, he too is not perfect. People can spew hate towards religion and people who have strong relationships with God, but hate never makes us better people, just the opposite,

May God bless you all.

Which god?

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(10-28-2023, 12:18 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Mike Johnson represents my Christian values

I can't say he represents mine, but that's just fine I suppose.  Americans allowing Jesus to become a mascot or marketing strategy of sorts for one of our political parties plays a large role in the warped view a lot of believers, non believers, and apathetic "Ida know, maybe" types alike have of him and his teachings. 

I don't see American politicians as great emissaries for Christ, but that's just my take.  Not enough lovin' of our neighbor and what not going on up in here.
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(10-28-2023, 01:32 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I can't say he represents mine, but that's just fine I suppose.  Americans allowing Jesus to become a mascot or marketing strategy of sorts for one of our political parties plays a large role in the warped view a lot of believers, non believers, and apathetic "Ida know, maybe" types alike have of him and his teachings. 

I don't see American politicians as great emissaries for Christ, but that's just my take.  Not enough lovin' of our neighbor and what not going on up in here.

Not going to ever be a poster child for faith or look fondly upon people who make it their identity in politics, so don't consider this speaking up for any bible thumping politician, but I will speak up a bit for America as a whole...

We are #1 in the world in private donations to charitable causes, #1 in the world in non-debt-trap aid for development assistance, and we spend about $51b per year in foreign aid as a government.
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(10-28-2023, 12:18 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: We look around us and the world is going to hell literally. Faith is God has deteriorated to record lows. I think the 2 are linked. Sadly many in here have no faith in God, but I pray some day you will understand Jesus dies for our (your) sins, we are all sinners, but we can be redeemed.

The day I accepted Jesus died for my sins, then was resurrected was the day my life changed. I will never waiver from my faith and I will continue to ask God to be a better person tomorrow than I was today because I know I am a sinner and will always be a sinner. My excuse for not accepting God was I knew I made many mistakes and was far from perfect so I did not want to appear as a hypocrite. But, I learned being a child of God will never make me perfect.

Mike Johnson represents my Christian values, he too is not perfect. People can spew hate towards religion and people who have strong relationships with God, but hate never makes us better people, just the opposite,

May God bless you all.

Wars have been occurring since the beginning of them regardless of how people worshiped or not.  Wars are generally fought over 2 things...land or religion. The current conflict in Israel covers both categories.  The Crusades were fought a thousand years ago. To think the current world is going to hell because of a lack of faith ignores world history.  

I am glad you find comfort and peace in your faith

I am sad, however, that you use people like Mike Johnson, as someone who reflects your faith.  He uses God as his excuse to hate.  He uses God as his justification for his own bigotry.  He uses God as his reason to punish those who do not believe.  His public policies reflect a disdain toward the poor, the hungry, the sick, the refugees, or the homeless.  Yet the Bible says to feed the poor, heal the sick, and house the homeless.  The Bible implores believers to lift up the least of us and Johnson's policies step all over them.  He chooses to punish the sinner not forgive them.  Jesus wants his followers to show empathy, and compassion, and lend his fellow man a helping hand. Mike Johnson might speak the words but his actions say something else entirely

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(10-28-2023, 02:10 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Not going to ever be a poster child for faith or look fondly upon people who make it their identity in politics, so don't consider this speaking up for any bible thumping politician, but I will speak up a bit for America as a whole...

We are #1 in the world in private donations to charitable causes, #1 in the world in non-debt-trap aid for development assistance, and we spend about $51b per year in foreign aid as a government.

Eh, the private donations thing could be because of churches being counted amongst that and our extremely high number of churches in this country. They do make up the largest chunk of charitable donations after all at about 27% in 2022. It's also important to keep in mind that many of the things that rely on charitable contributions in this country are handled through the state in other countries. So in many countries there isn't as much need to charity as there is here. It's a double-edged sword.
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(10-28-2023, 02:10 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Not going to ever be a poster child for faith or look fondly upon people who make it their identity in politics, so don't consider this speaking up for any bible thumping politician, but I will speak up a bit for America as a whole...

We are #1 in the world in private donations to charitable causes, #1 in the world in non-debt-trap aid for development assistance, and we spend about $51b per year in foreign aid as a government.

But do we love each other?

Money is great and all (YAY...Capitalism) but do we take care of each other or do we just give some money to charity and then ignore the problems that cause the need for the charity?

Just asking.
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(10-28-2023, 04:03 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Eh, the private donations thing could be because of churches being counted amongst that and our extremely high number of churches in this country. They do make up the largest chunk of charitable donations after all at about 27% in 2022. It's also important to keep in mind that many of the things that rely on charitable contributions in this country are handled through the state in other countries. So in many countries there isn't as much need to charity as there is here. It's a double-edged sword.

It isn't. Our gap over 2nd place in charitable donations is so large that even when talking about GDP%, if you took out 27% of our number (I don't know if churches are counted in that number, but for the sake of it, lets say so) we'd still have a huge lead over 2nd place. We were nearly double second place.

So other countries they are forced to by law to give their money, while in this country we CHOOSE to give our money. If you have a choice in the matter and you're still making the choice to do so, that's considered a good thing. That money is normally used more effectively as well when it's more targeted and local.

It's okay to accept that there's some good in America and that most normal people would generally like to help people.

(10-28-2023, 05:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: But do we love each other?

Money is great and all (YAY...Capitalism) but do we take care of each other or do we just give some money to charity and then ignore the problems that cause the need for the charity?

Just asking.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/sep/08/charitable-giving-country

They averaged out % of people who gave money, % of people who volunteered time, and % of people who helped a stranger and the US is listed as 6th overall and 3rd of countries that actually have a bordering neighbor rather than being an island.

We get over-onlined and over-exposed by news which highlights all the bad to be divisive and drive "engagement". There's still a lot of people helping other people here, a lot of good people here.
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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/10/mike-johnson-new-speaker-black-son


Quote:House Speaker Mike Johnson Responds to New Round of Scrutiny About Black Son

The Louisiana representative cited privacy as to why there are no pictures of his “adopted” child in public family photos.
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Mike Johnson’s meteoric elevation from an under-the-radar congressman from Louisiana to second-in-line to the U.S. presidency sent journalists, Democrats and Republicans alike to uncover information about the personal and professional history of the most right-wing and least experienced House Speaker in history, who took the top job on Wednesday. 


On the day Johnson was voted in, several major right-wing social media accounts on X, formerly known as Twitter, began circulating clips of an interview Johnson gave to PBS in 2020, in which he told journalist Walter Isaacson that the police killing of George Floyd was “an act of murder” and called for “systemic change.” Notably, Johnson said in the interview that he had learned about racism in America through the experience of raising a Black son, Michael. 

Johnson said his Black son had a more difficult life than his white son “simply because of the color of his skin.” “Michael being a Black American, and Jack being white Caucasian. They have different challenges,” he said. “My son Jack has an easier path. He just does.”

Daily Wire podcaster Matt Walsh described Johnson’s comments as a “full-fledged endorsement of the Left’s racial narrative,” while far-right anti-Muslim activist Laura Loomer accused the new Speaker of being an “undercover Democrat.” Pro-DeSantis conservative influencer Pedro Gonzalez wrote that Johnson had “completely internalized left-wing racial libel about white supremacy and privilege.”

Talking Points Memo’s Josh Marshall noted on Friday that there were no photos of Michael on Johnson’s House website or his Facebook page. His son also does not appear in Johnson’s official biography.


Speculation about whether Michael was a real person prompted Johnson’s office to clarify. “When Speaker Johnson first ran for Congress in 2016, he and his wife, Kelly, spoke to their son Michael—who they took in as newlyweds when Michael was 14 years old,” said Corinne Day, Johnson’s communications director, in a statement first reported by Newsweek. “At the time of the Speaker’s election to Congress, Michael was an adult with a family of his own. He asked not to be involved in their new public life.” Day added that Johnson “maintains a close relationship with Michael to this day.”


Day told Newsweek that the Johnson family did not formally adopt Michael because of the “lengthy … process,” and declined to say whether Michael used the same surname as the family.

Johnson’s Black son came up in 2019, when Johnson testified before a subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee considering a resolution that would establish a commission to examine possible reparations proposals. In comments that drew boos from some in the hearing, Johnson said that he had asked his son about the idea of reparations for slavery, and that his son said he opposed it.


In his first major interview after ascending to the top House job last week, Johnson appeared to downplay his previous comments about how racism affected Michael’s life. “Having raised two 14-year-old boys in America and the state of Louisiana, they had different experiences,” he told Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “And I’m not so sure it was all about skin color, but it is about culture and society. Michael, our first, came from a really troubled background and had a lot of challenges.”
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like believing black people were subhuman and only capable of serving their white masters

 

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Mike Johnson: we support Israel

also Mike Johnson: we support Israel only if the IRS budget is cut by the same amount
 

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(10-31-2023, 10:39 AM)pally Wrote: Mike Johnson: we support Israel

also Mike Johnson: we support Israel only if the IRS budget is cut by the same amount

Just coming to post about that.

A clean funding bill for Israel without Ukraine would have put the Democrats in a pickle.  Instead they throw this IRS funding cut in and now they look dumber than ever.

But I'm sure this is the Democrats and Biden's fault somehow...lol.
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(10-28-2023, 01:32 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I can't say he represents mine, but that's just fine I suppose.  Americans allowing Jesus to become a mascot or marketing strategy of sorts for one of our political parties plays a large role in the warped view a lot of believers, non believers, and apathetic "Ida know, maybe" types alike have of him and his teachings. 

I don't see American politicians as great emissaries for Christ, but that's just my take.  Not enough lovin' of our neighbor and what not going on up in here.

The conservatives have a core belief in God. Liberals and other do not. Just because others have no faith in God will never change our views because it has nothing to do with marketing strategies.

Each individual is responsible for their own faith or lack there of and the judge some day will be God, not man.
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(10-31-2023, 10:44 AM)GMDino Wrote: Just coming to post about that.

A clean funding bill for Israel without Ukraine would have put the Democrats in a pickle.  Instead they throw this IRS funding cut in and now they look dumber than ever.

But I'm sure this is the Democrats and Biden's fault somehow...lol.

I am not sure why this is not a good compromise. The GOP simply is saying we can't just keep spending money, they fnd Israel and get rid of additional funding just adde for the IRS.

Seems common sense to me and i hope they stick to it.

Congress controls the purse strings, they need to hold Biden and liberals accountable for out of control spending. The average American would not notice if we took away 14 million from the IRS.

The GOP supports Israel, we will see if liberals do as well.
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