Opinion: DeSantis 2024?

[*Nately120*]

(09-01-2022, 05:32 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Rittenhouse v Smollett VP debates will be intense.

Ida know...did liberals dig in their heels on the Smollett thing when faced with evidence that he was lying?  If they did, I guess his approval is going to go up up up, but he admitted he lied eventually, didn't he?

[GMDino]

(09-01-2022, 08:32 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ida know...did liberals dig in their heels on the Smollett thing when faced with evidence that he was lying?  If they did, I guess his approval is going to go up up up, but he admitted he lied eventually, didn't he?

I can't find it, but I swear he said he was innocent but that it didn't happen the way he said it did or some such thing.

But you're right, once the truth came out most "liberals" condemned it all.

But also I think if DeSantis should heaven forbid win the nomination he'll pick a women probably.  But it will have to be a weak woman he can completely control like Pence was.

[grampahol]

DeSantis has almost as much appeal as your grandma's dentures and a dozen half empty bottle of Jack and an open bag of coke in your lap during a Friday night drunk driving stop.. I might even pick the dentures and the Jack.. Sorry grandma.. 

[GMDino]

DeSantis once again using human beings for a political stunt.

The funniest part is the immigrants were treated kindly and well when they landed so at least they were better off than in Texas.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123109768/migrants-sent-to-marthas-vineyard

Quote:Migrants on Martha's Vineyard flight say they were told they were going to Boston

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A young girl is shown staying at a shelter on Martha's Vineyard, Mass., after she and dozens of other migrants arrived by plane unannounced Wednesday.
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MARTHA'S VINEYARD, Mass. — About 50 migrants arrived by plane in Martha's Vineyard, Mass., Wednesday on flights paid for by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and that originated in San Antonio, Texas.


The migrants touched down at about 3:15 p.m. local time. Later Wednesday, a spokesperson for DeSantis sent a statement to NPR and other news outlets confirming that the migrants were transported by Florida under a state program that was funded by the legislature earlier this year. The statement reads in part: "States like Massachusetts, New York and California will better facilitate the care of these individuals who they have invited into our country by incentivizing illegal immigration."

Flight trackers show two flights took off from San Antonio around 8 a.m. local time on Wednesday.

A number of migrants told NPR their flight originated in San Antonio, and that they were being transported to Boston, not Martha's Vineyard.

One flight took off from San Antonio and made a stop in Florida and South Carolina before landing in Martha's Vineyard. The second flight also stopped in Florida, but made another stop in Charlotte, North Carolina before landing in Martha's Vineyard.
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A spokesman for Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said his office was not directly involved in these plans.

"Our office has had conversations with Governor DeSantis and his team about supporting our busing strategy to provide much-needed relief to our overwhelmed and overrun border communities," the spokesman said. "Though we were not involved in these initial planes to Martha's Vineyard, we appreciate the support in responding to this national crisis and helping Texans. Governor Abbott encourages and welcomes all his fellow governors to engage in this effort to secure the border and focus on the failing and illegal efforts of the Biden-Harris Administration to continue these reckless open border policies."

The unannounced flight drew anger from Massachusetts officials.

"We have the governor of Florida ... hatching a secret plot to send immigrant families like cattle on an airplane," said state Sen. Dylan Fernandes, who represents Martha's Vineyard. "Ship them women and children to a place they weren't told where they were going and never alerted local officials and people on the ground here that they were coming. It is an incredibly inhumane and depraved thing to do."

NPR was able to interview three of the migrants late Wednesday. "They (the migrants) told us they had recently crossed the border in Texas and were staying at a shelter in San Antonio," NPR's Joel Rose said on Morning Edition.

The migrants said a woman they identified as "Perla" approached them outside the shelter and lured them into boarding the plane, saying they would be flown to Boston where they could get expedited work papers. She provided them with food. The migrants said Perla was still trying to recruit more passengers just hours before their flight.


Two boys are shown staying at a shelter on Martha's Vineyard, Mass., after they and dozens of other migrants arrived unannounced by plane Wednesday.
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Andres Duarte, a 30-year-old Venezuelan, said he had recently crossed the border into Texas and eventually went to a shelter in San Antonio.

"She (Perla) offered us help. Help that never arrived," Andres said. "Now we are here. We got on the plane with a vision of the future, of making it." He went on to explain why he boarded the plane with so little information in hand. "Look, when you have no money and someone offers help, well, it means a lot."

In Martha's Vineyard, the migrants are staying at a church shelter while local authorities and nonprofit organizations figure out what's going to happen next. Lisa Del Castro, who runs a homeless shelter on the island, said resources were initially scarce.

"Everything from beds to food to clothing to toothbrushes, toothpaste, blankets, sheets. I mean, we had some of it ... but we did not have the numbers that we needed."

Most of the arrivals spoke little or no English, and Spanish-speaking high school students were pressed into service as interpreters.

Edgartown Police Chief Bruce McNamee said many of the migrants were confused.
"We have talked to a number of people who've asked, 'Where am I?' And then I was trying to explain where Martha's Vineyard is."

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The Wednesday flight extends a tactic by Republican politicians in primarily southern states have used to send migrants to Democrat-controlled cities in the north. Republican leaders have used this step to protest the rise in illegal immigration during President Biden's time in office, and the issue figures to be prominent in November's midterm elections.

Martha's Vineyard has a reputation as a destination for the progressive elite, and DeSantis has been regularly bringing up the island enclave at his press conferences. Republican governors in Texas and Arizona have also been transporting migrants from the border to northern cities at taxpayer expense.

Democrats and immigrant advocates say those governors are essentially using migrants as political pawns. But the governors say are simply calling attention to a very real problem.

The U.S. Border Patrol is on pace to record 2 million apprehensions in a fiscal year for the first time ever.

Del Castro, who runs the Martha's Vineyard shelter where the migrants spent the night, said the group is resilient.

"There's some really sad stories. And then some people, the only thing they were expressing is how grateful they are to be here, and to be safe, and cared for, right? And, you know, their needs are immense right now."

NPR spoke with Yesica, a migrant who gave only her first name because of her undocumented immigration status. She said she was uncertain about her future.

"Oh, goodness. I don't know what is going to happen to us," Yesica said, speaking in Spanish. "The truth is I am worried. It will be whatever God wishes, no? We're here now and there's nothing we can do."

"Not even," she added, "to take a step back."

And before the defenders jump in...this was nothing more than a stunt.

So it seems like Florida gave @FoxNews an exclusive, but didn't tell anyone in Martha's Vineyard, or even tell the migrants where they were going.

This has enormously damaging implications for the migrants, who will have to leave the island for court hearings and check-ins. https://t.co/yG4NRf5cG7

— Aaron Reichlin-Melnick (@ReichlinMelnick) September 15, 2022

 







Oh, and while it is more than proven that DeSantis is a human pile of excrement he's also a hypocrite.

Finally, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that all 50 refugees who were sent to Martha's Vineyard today are reportedly Venezuelan.

Last year, DeSantis designated a "Victims of Communism" day in Florida.

Guess Venezuelans don't matter to him anymore. https://t.co/YJhZAnsvkd

— Aaron Reichlin-Melnick (@ReichlinMelnick) September 15, 2022

 

[BigPapaKain]

Aren't there laws about knowingly moving illegal aliens across state lines?

Party of law and order, folks!

[CJD]

(09-15-2022, 04:42 PM)GMDino Wrote: DeSantis once again using human beings for a political stunt.

The funniest part is the immigrants were treated kindly and well when they landed so at least they were better off than in Texas.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123109768/migrants-sent-to-marthas-vineyard

This DeSantis guy seems like a bit of an ass.

[GMDino]

(09-15-2022, 04:57 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Aren't there laws about knowingly moving illegal aliens across state lines?

Party of law and order, folks!

I saw a few people say he was "trafficking" them because he did not contact any of the appropriate agencies, but I don't know the law and wouldn't accuse him of such a thing.

[GMDino]

(09-15-2022, 04:59 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: This DeSantis guy seems like a bit of an ass.

Which probably means he'll be in the running for the gop nomination for POTUS in 2024.

[StoneTheCrow]

(09-15-2022, 04:57 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Aren't there laws about knowingly moving illegal aliens across state lines?

Party of law and order, folks!

What makes it within the law when Biden does it? A heads up?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/politics/desantis-florida-republicans-routine-migrant-flights-immigration/index.html

[GMDino]

(09-15-2022, 06:08 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: What makes it within the law when Biden does it? A heads up?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/politics/desantis-florida-republicans-routine-migrant-flights-immigration/index.html

Well, yes.

But thanks for another article highlighting how DeSantis flat out lies about not being notified, saying must arrived at night, etc.

[StoneTheCrow]

(09-15-2022, 06:13 PM)GMDino Wrote: Well, yes.

But thanks for another article highlighting how DeSantis flat out lies about not being notified, saying must arrived at night, etc.

You’re welcome…unlike some others.

[*pally*]

He is also moving the people without full disclosure of where they are going and what will happen when they arrive. This group that went to Marths Vineyard was told there were jobs waiting for them but not told the location. I don't necessarily disagree that dealing with the migrant issue should be shared nationally, but to do it this way is pure exploitation in order to perpetuate a political stunt. Its cruel.

These governors aren't trying to solve the problem, they are trying to look tough to their base.

[*Nately120*]

Side note, a few days ago a guy who wanted to kill all democrats took a gun into a Dairy Queen 15 minutes from where I grew up in PA. Can we bus his crazy ass to Mar A Lago? Hell, let's bus everyone who commits a crime to places where politicians who "made them do it" can deal with them.

[Vas Deferens]

(09-15-2022, 07:05 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Side note, a few days ago a guy who wanted to kill all democrats took a gun into a Dairy Queen 15 minutes from where I grew up in PA. Can we bus his crazy ass to Mar A Lago? Hell, let's bus everyone who commits a crime to places where politicians who "made them do it" can deal with them.

I was thinking the same thing earlier today when I read this. Anyone caught with illegal possession of a firearm should be sent to ‘NRA sanctuary states’ going forward.

I think the dem cities would get the better end of that deal.

[StoneTheCrow]

Years and years of thousands coming across unchecked, out of sight and out of mind. 50 of ‘em get a free ticket to Martha’s Vineyard and look at yourselves

[Millhouse]

The country needs 'The Deporter in Chief' back in office, as this wouldn't even be an issue.

I'm referring to President Obama by the way.

[*Nately120*]

(09-15-2022, 08:59 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Years and years of thousands coming across unchecked, out of sight and out of mind. 50 of ‘em get a free ticket to Martha’s Vineyard and look at yourselves

Hell, when Reagan granted amnesty to all those illegals they should have sent them all directly to Nancy's bedroom!

(09-15-2022, 09:10 PM)Millhouse Wrote: The country needs 'The Deporter in Chief' back in office, as this wouldn't even be an issue.

I'm referring to President Obama by the way.

Obama needs to deport himself back to Kenya!

[StoneTheCrow]

(09-15-2022, 08:19 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: I was thinking the same thing earlier today when I read this. Anyone caught with illegal possession of a firearm should be sent to ‘NRA sanctuary states’ going forward.

I think the dem cities would get the better end of that deal.

Send the illegal gun owners to areas which support legal gun ownership.

Send the illegal immigrants to areas which support illegal immigration.

These seem the same.

[BigPapaKain]

(09-15-2022, 06:08 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: What makes it within the law when Biden does it? A heads up?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/politics/desantis-florida-republicans-routine-migrant-flights-immigration/index.html

Did you even read the article you used as a basis for this comment?

Because I'm betting you didn't read the article you used as a basis for this comment.

[StoneTheCrow]

(09-16-2022, 08:38 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Did you even read the article you used as a basis for this comment?

Because I'm betting you didn't read the article you used as a basis for this comment.

You bet right. That’s why I asked the question, wasn’t meant to be a “what about”. Did you read it that long winded sumbitch? Share Cliffs notes with the class if so.