Soldiers of Odin the next European vigilante group

[Sovereign Nation]

(02-07-2016, 10:45 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: That's these guys M.O.    Rules for radicals is in full force around here.

I know, this is why I just PM you with things.  Saves from having to sift through the BS of willfully ignorant and happy to be so, posters.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(02-08-2016, 01:56 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: Or maybe I do and you just assume I don't.

Go play somewhere else....

The problem with that argument is you are assuming that I am assuming.

[Sovereign Nation]

(02-08-2016, 03:44 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: The problem with that argument is you are assuming that I am assuming.

Or are you assuming that I am assuming that your assuming?

I can do this all night.    

[Sovereign Nation]

Gotta love it when a video emerges of a migrant approaching a girl to "talk" with. When she tries to get away...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H5a4ytOrwU

[GMDino]

(02-07-2016, 10:45 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: That's these guys M.O.    Rules for radicals is in full force around here.

(02-08-2016, 01:58 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: I know, this is why I just PM you with things.  Saves from having to sift through the BS of willfully ignorant and happy to be so, posters.

Also it would keep from hearing anything outside your bubble of belief.

[Sovereign Nation]

(02-08-2016, 08:11 AM)GMDino Wrote: Also it would keep from hearing anything outside your bubble of belief.

You're kidding, right?

Of course your not.  Silly me, I do know better than to ask that question.

If you were paying attention, I have posted plenty of articles that proclaim a lot of things outside my bubble of belief.  

If I already know what your response to my post will be then why should I even bother posting articles?  The repetition is terribly burdensome.

[GMDino]

(02-08-2016, 08:44 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: You're kidding, right?

Of course your not.  Silly me, I do know better than to ask that question.

If you were paying attention, I have posted plenty of articles that proclaim a lot of things outside my bubble of belief.  

If I already know what your response to my post will be then why should I even bother posting articles?  The repetition is terribly burdensome.

I was referring to your comment about PMing someone vs posting so you would not have to (in your words)

Quote: Saves from having to sift through the BS of willfully ignorant and happy to be so, posters.

Clearly you post things or we wouldn't be so lucky as to know you exist.

[Sovereign Nation]

(02-08-2016, 09:30 AM)GMDino Wrote: I was referring to your comment about PMing someone vs posting so you would not have to (in your words)




Clearly you post things or we wouldn't be so lucky as to know you exist.

Yes, if I PM someone then I wouldn't have to sift through countless pages of willfully ignorant posters to see what the intended person thinks.

Instead, the response will be from the intended person.  He weighs in on the topic and then we move on.

See, here we go with the repetition again.  

[fredtoast]

(02-07-2016, 05:01 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: Then you have been asleep during the past few years with regards to "all of the police shootings".  Does white privilege ring a bell? 

Salon had a story after Dylan Roof went on his killing spree. 

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/20/white_america_is_complicit_charleston_dylann_roof_and_the_war_on_black_america_partner/

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/18/charleston_church_massacre_the_violence_white_america_must_answer_for/

Not about Roof, but their thoughts in general toward white men.

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/22/white_men_must_be_stopped_the_very_future_of_the_planet_depends_on_it_partner/


compared to this for San Bernandino:

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/05/muslim_fever_goes_viral_after_paris_and_san_bernardino_islam_bashing_is_back_and_bigger_than_ever/

Basically, don't blame the whole for the actions of the few.

However with regards to whites, sure blame the whole for the actions of the few.

Nope: not misrepresenting.  You think a white woman, that doesn't want to "talk to" a refugee is being discriminatory and is wrong to do so.

Here is the problem.  You have taken a couple of factual articles and created a completely exaggerated hypothetical that does not exist.  It would be like me claiming that just because Fox News ran a story against affirmative action then they are in favor of slavery.

As a white guy you have to go to Make believe land in order to use play your victim card.  It doesn't happen in real life so you make it happen in your own imagination.

You want to see more proof of white privilege......If you think a negative article in a magazine equal "oppression" then you are probably a straight white guy.

[Sovereign Nation]

(02-08-2016, 10:47 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Here is the problem.  You have taken a couple of factual articles and created a completely exaggerated hypothetical that does not exist.  It would be like me claiming that just because Fox News ran a story against affirmative action then they are in favor of slavery.

As a white guy you have to go to Make believe land in order to use play your victim card.  It doesn't happen in real life so you make it happen in your own imagination.

You want to see more proof of white privilege......If you think a negative article in a magazine equal "oppression" then you are probably a straight white guy.

Right, sparky.  Think what you will.  You are completely oblivious.

No make believe chief.  I have witnessed white oppression.

Are the white farmers in Zimbabwe not being oppressed?  Some are being arrested, others have been killed.

You think these articles are factual?  So Dylann Roof kills people and it is the whole white races fault. 

Radical Islamist kill people but we shouldn't judge the whole religion, just the actual shooters.

When a black person commits a crime it is due to some negative effect brought on by whites, but a white person commits a crime then that is proof of how evil and vile whites are.

Did you know that businesses get tax breaks for hiring minorities?  Know how many white guys I know can't get a job, even though they are more qualified than the non-white that got the job? 

As I have said.  White privilege is a myth and I denounce it.  In order for me to acknowledge white privilege then blacks have to acknowledge Black privilege.

Want proof of black privilege.  Black pride is allowed.  A school that originally named a fitness center, Roger T. White Pride fitness center.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/white-pride-fitness-room-uproar-prompts-wisconsin-school-to-change-name-b99663261z1-367405831.html


The family of Roger T. White was the largest donor and the fitness center was originally named Pride Fitness Center.  So they decided to combine the names. 

So blacks having pride in their race...

Whites having pride int their race?  :boo:


Since blacks refuse to acknowledge the privileges afforded to them, then I refuse to acknowledge perceived privileges that they try to impose on me.

Your self hatred would be alarming, but hey, some people just don't get it, and you are one of them.  So you don't even realize how much you hate yourself.

[fredtoast]

(02-08-2016, 11:12 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: Did you know that businesses get tax breaks for hiring minorities? 

No.  But I know that white supremacists use this lie to trick rubes who either don't care about the truth or are too stupid to figure it out.

Got a link to back that up Sovereign?

[fredtoast]

(02-08-2016, 11:12 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: When a black person commits a crime it is due to some negative effect brought on by whites, but a white person commits a crime then that is proof of how evil and vile whites are.

 So Dylann Roof kills people and it is the whole white races fault.  

This is not true at all.  No one talks like this.  All you are doing is building strawmen to knock down.

You can't attack what people REALLY say so you make up things that they have not said.

[Sovereign Nation]

(02-08-2016, 11:22 AM)fredtoast Wrote: This is not true at all.  No one talks like this.  All you are doing is building strawmen to knock down.

Really?  Instead of just claiming strawman.  Please elaborate?

I see you added some stuff after my post...

I posted an article from Salon that states Dylann Roof's killing spree is the fault of White America.

You are the one making stuff up. However that is how you operate. No wonder you are just a public defender, with your tactics at arguing, no private firm would take you seriously.

[Benton]

(02-07-2016, 05:01 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: Then you have been asleep during the past few years with regards to "all of the police shootings".  Does white privilege ring a bell? 

Salon had a story after Dylan Roof went on his killing spree. 

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/20/white_america_is_complicit_charleston_dylann_roof_and_the_war_on_black_america_partner/

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/18/charleston_church_massacre_the_violence_white_america_must_answer_for/

Not about Roof, but their thoughts in general toward white men.

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/22/white_men_must_be_stopped_the_very_future_of_the_planet_depends_on_it_partner/


compared to this for San Bernandino:

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/05/muslim_fever_goes_viral_after_paris_and_san_bernardino_islam_bashing_is_back_and_bigger_than_ever/

Basically, don't blame the whole for the actions of the few.

However with regards to whites, sure blame the whole for the actions of the few.

Nope: not misrepresenting.  You think a white woman, that doesn't want to "talk to" a refugee is being discriminatory and is wrong to do so.

(02-07-2016, 05:08 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: lol:  in your fiction, Syrian refugees speak Spanish.

The difference in my fiction is instead of it being so far fetched it is based in truth.

Sure, the situation is hypothetical, as I have not been in any confrontation with any refugees. 

However, I have seen plenty of MSM stories that have painted a distorted narrative, and I know there would be some journalist that would twist the story to show a different picture than what the reality would be.

It has happened numerous times.

Salon isn't MSM.

That's like quoting the Heritage Foundation or Glenn Beck and saying their fictitious accounts and paranoid ramblings speak for all conservatives and conservative leaning news agencies like Fox.

[Sovereign Nation]

(02-08-2016, 11:17 AM)fredtoast Wrote: No.  But I know that white supremacists use this lie to trick rubes who either don't care about the truth or are too stupid to figure it out.

Got a link to back that up Sovereign?

http://smallbusiness.chron.com/tax-incentives-using-minorityowned-business-30659.html

For minority business owners....

and here is the WOTC

https://www.doleta.gov/business/incentives/opptax/

I will add that a quick google search was all that was needed. Shouldn't be so lazy Fred.

[Sovereign Nation]

(02-08-2016, 11:27 AM)Benton Wrote:

Salon isn't MSM.

That's like quoting the Heritage Foundation or Glenn Beck and saying their fictitious accounts and paranoid ramblings speak for all conservatives and conservative leaning news agencies like Fox.

Yes they are.

They are a journalistic outlet.  Their articles are featured on Yahoo, MSN and various other platforms.

They may not be a part of the main hub.  However they are a media source and people do get information from them.

[Benton]

(02-08-2016, 11:30 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: Yes they are.

They are a journalistic outlet.  Their articles are featured on Yahoo, MSN and various other platforms.

They may not be a part of the main hub.  However they are a media source and people do get information from them.

To the first bolded, no, they aren't.

Just because you make a model rocket doesn't make you a rocket scientist. Homeschooling your kid doesn't make you a teacher. And writing unsourced, one-sided stories doesn't make you a journalist. Journalists adhere to guidelines. Salon is as much a news source as the National Enquirer.

To the second bolded, not being part of the main hub means they aren't mainstream.

[fredtoast]

(02-08-2016, 11:28 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/tax-incentives-using-minorityowned-business-30659.html

For minority business owners....

and here is the WOTC

https://www.doleta.gov/business/incentives/opptax/

I will add that a quick google search was all that was needed.  Shouldn't be so lazy Fred.

Using a minority owned business is different from "hiring minorities" and the WOTC has nothing to do with race.

[StLucieBengal]

(02-08-2016, 11:37 AM)Benton Wrote: To the first bolded, no, they aren't.

Just because you make a model rocket doesn't make you a rocket scientist. Homeschooling your kid doesn't make you a teacher. And writing unsourced, one-sided stories doesn't make you a journalist. Journalists adhere to guidelines. Salon is as much a news source as the National Enquirer.

To the second bolded, not being part of the main hub means they aren't mainstream.

I thought salon was recently partnered or was a sub with MSNBC or someone big.

[StLucieBengal]

(02-08-2016, 01:58 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: I know, this is why I just PM you with things.  Saves from having to sift through the BS of willfully ignorant and happy to be so, posters.

All good my friend. I don't blame ya. There are loads of us here. Most of it is via PM's because of all the little Alinsky's around here derailing threads.

we just gotta keep posting. We all need opposing viewpoints and we have some good posters here on both sides. Once the Alinsky's figure out that we can't be shamed we will move towards constructive discussion.