Today, May 17, 2016: International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia

[GMDino]

Saw the link at the bottom of the Google search page.

I'm sure many will enjoy the video it linked too.

[*michaelsean*]

I can do that for 24 hrs.

[StLucieBengal]

Haha social justice.

Between that and UN being involved i am not sure which is worse.

[Griever]

(05-17-2016, 03:01 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Haha social justice.  

Between that and UN being involved i am not sure which is worse.

i know right, it must be so hard for you to act like a normal human being and treat people different than you with a shred of dignity

keep the fight alive, just say no to them qwueer-o-sexuals, and their agenda of doing more damage than straight people already do to family and the sanctity of marriage

[BmorePat87]

As awful as it is that there are still many things left to fix in this country, imagine living somewhere where you're fighting to decriminalize being gay.

I can't imagine there's anyone who would be against this, unless they're petty little people with massive insecurities about their own lives.

[Griever]

(05-17-2016, 03:06 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: As awful as it is that there are still many things left to fix in this country, imagine living somewhere where you're fighting to decriminalize being gay.

I can't imagine there's anyone who would be against this, unless they're petty little people with massive insecurities about their own lives.

yeah i think Lucie would be happier in russia, since no "gay propaganda" is allowed

hell, he might be thrilled to live in Uganda, they just outright kill them

[StLucieBengal]

(05-17-2016, 03:03 PM)Griever Wrote: i know right, it must be so hard for you to act like a normal human being and treat people different than you with a shred of dignity

keep the fight alive, just say no to them qwueer-o-sexuals, and their agenda of doing more damage than straight people already do to family and the sanctity of marriage

Where have I taken away anyones dignity?  

[*bfine32*]

(05-17-2016, 03:03 PM)Griever Wrote: i know right, it must be so hard for you to act like a normal human being and treat people different than you with a shred of dignity

keep the fight alive, just say no to them qwueer-o-sexuals, and their agenda of doing more damage than straight people already do to family and the sanctity of marriage

What do you mean by "normal" human being? And why do you suggest folks should act as such?

[*Nately120*]

(05-17-2016, 03:16 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Where have I taken away anyones dignity?  

Other than your own?

[SunsetBengal]

(05-17-2016, 03:03 PM)Griever Wrote: i know right, it must be so hard for you to act like a normal human being and treat people different than you with a shred of dignity

keep the fight alive, just say no to them qwueer-o-sexuals, and their agenda of doing more damage than straight people already do to family and the sanctity of marriage

The don't need Lucie to keep the fight going, the LGBT community has enough with their own continuing the struggle.

http://https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/05/16/gay-pastor-admits-he-faked-homophobic-slur-on-whole-foods-cake/

[*Nately120*]

(05-17-2016, 08:26 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The don't need Lucie to keep the fight going, the LGBT community has enough with their own continuing the struggle.

http://https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/05/16/gay-pastor-admits-he-faked-homophobic-slur-on-whole-foods-cake/

That bastard.  What a fool I've been thinking these people deserve rights and to be treated with respect!

[SunsetBengal]

(05-17-2016, 10:09 PM)Nately120 Wrote: That bastard.  What a fool I've been thinking these people deserve rights and to be treated with respect!

No one ever thought of gays as drama queens..

[StLucieBengal]

A girl used to be a tom boy and then grow out of it once they hit puberty. Now they are taking these tom boys and giving them radical hormone treatments to stop puberty.

Tell me why are we celebrating something that wants to put our children through radical hormone treatment and alter their body. Instead of just talking to them. Why is this becoming mainstream?

There is no reason to support this stuff and blindly go along. Not to mention the fake claims as sunset listed above.... Wanting social justice lol. It's all a sham.

[GMDino]

(05-17-2016, 10:29 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: A girl used to be a tom boy and then grow out of it once they hit puberty.   Now they are taking these tom boys and giving them radical hormone treatments to stop puberty.  

Tell me why are we celebrating something that wants to put our children through radical hormone treatment and alter their body.    Instead of just talking to them.     Why is this becoming mainstream?  

There is no reason to support this stuff and blindly go along.    Not to mention the fake claims as sunset listed above....   Wanting social justice lol.   It's all a sham.

Who is they?

Their parents?

Aren't we suppose to let parents raise their children without outside inference?

More to the point it does not affect you in any way shape or form except it makes you afraid for some reason that "they" are out to get you and your family.

I am not "celebrating" anything.  I am saying I don't care what they identify as and if they want to use the bathroom I'm good with it.

There is no reason to make up scenarios to defend what you believe because it doesn't matter.

[StLucieBengal]

(05-17-2016, 10:43 PM)GMDino Wrote: Who is they?

Their parents?

Aren't we suppose to let parents raise their children without outside inference?

More to the point it does not affect you in any way shape or form except it makes you afraid for some reason that "they" are out to get you and your family.

I am not "celebrating" anything.  I am saying I don't care what they identify as and if they want to use the bathroom I'm good with it.

There is no reason to make up scenarios to defend what you believe because it doesn't matter.

Abusing children is a problem.    And the doctors pushing this treatment for such a bs thing like this ... They should lose their licenses.    It's criminal to prey on the ignorant and making parents feel like this is the only way to go is wrong.    Most of these kids grow out of it when they  hit puberty and once they start taking  hormone treatments the liklihood of suicide raises.    

[*Nately120*]

(05-18-2016, 12:51 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Abusing children is a problem.    And the doctors pushing this treatment for such a bs thing like this ... They should lose their licenses.    It's criminal to prey on the ignorant and making parents feel like this is the only way to go is wrong.    Most of these kids grow out of it when they  hit puberty and once they start taking  hormone treatments the liklihood of suicide raises.    

The hormone treatments increase the likelihood of suicide?  Hmm, I believe the fact that a large segment of our society treats them like hell-bound abominations and conspires to deny them rights and dignity would count as a "confounding variable" don't you?

[StLucieBengal]

http://thefederalist.com/2015/02/02/what-parents-should-know-about-giving-hormones-to-trans-kids/

For anyone who thinks these hormone treatments are just the best thing on earth.

Quote: The United States Endocrine Society says that cross-gender hormones should not be used on kids under the age of 16. The standards in the Netherlands, United Kingdom, and Australia agree. The reason is simple: Cross-sex hormones have irreversible effects on fertility. Cross-gender hormone treatments can sterilize kids—not even Dr. Frankenstein would do that.

So I was shocked to learn that physicians administer cross-gender hormones to kids under the recommended age of 16 and many gender specialists believe “it is best to slowly initiate cross-gender hormones at the same time that the patient’s peers are entering puberty, typically around age 12-14.”


Johanna Olson, medical director of the Los Angeles Children’s Hospital Center for Trans Youth Health and Development, in a message directed to medical students, said that she has been “skipping the blockers” and placing children twelve years old and even younger directly on cross-gender hormones.

The blockers she references are hormone blockers, which suspend the natural development of puberty. The idea is to give trans kids more time before the natural course of puberty occurs, with its gender-specific alterations to the body. Blockers are routinely considered to be the first course of treatment for trans-kids of puberty age because if you stop the blockers, puberty resumes.

Hormones Have Irreversible Effects
But cross-gender hormones are another matter. Taking cross-gender hormones is the first step in medical transitioning. As a transgender adult who was a trans kid, I know transitioning has consequences. I know that adults can’t fully anticipate the long-term effects, much less little kids. It’s a case of short-term gain with long-term pain. That’s reality.

Lisa Brinkmann, a clinical psychologist specializing in gender issues in Dublin, Ireland, says about cross-gender hormones, “We are talking about changes that impact the kids’ reproductive systems for a lifetime. We have to be sure it’s the right thing to do. Cross-sex hormones have irreversible effects on fertility. There’s no going back.”

Most Kids Will Grow Out of Gender Dysphoria
A September 2014 report from the Hastings Center by Jack Drescher and Jack Pula says a diagnosis of gender dysphoria in childhood “does not inevitably continue into adulthood” the majority of the time. The majority of trans kids will not choose to transition as adults.

No one can objectively provide proof that the kids they are treating with hormones are really transgender.
The same physicians who suggest administering cross-gender hormones to kids at age 12 to 14 also say that they have no sure way to identify which kids will become transgender adults. No one can objectively provide proof that the kids they are treating with hormones are really transgender. The entire basis for treatment is what the kids say.

Gender dysphoria has been theorized to be a consequence of differences in the brain, but studies don’t find any. A recent study at the Department of Clinical Neuroscience, Karolinska Institute, Stockholm, Sweden, says; “The present data do not support the notion that brains of male to female transgenders are feminized.” The study could not find a difference in the brains between heterosexual men and that of male to female transsexuals. The brains in trans boys are no different than non-trans boys.

Normal Kids Are At Risk
With no test to tell which kids will become transgender adults, but knowing that a majority will not, it is highly likely that doctors are administering powerful hormones with irreversible effects to normal boys and girls.

Treating the psychological or psychiatric disorder is the answer, not changing genders.
My concern for trans kids is forged from my own life as a child transgender. I was told that because my strong feelings of being a girl on the inside had persisted for so long that I needed to alter my external appearance to match, from man to woman. Because I was desperate for relief, I followed all the recommendations for someone with gender dysphoria and underwent the transition. I successfully lived and worked as a female for eight years. But after eight years, the male came back.

My biological sex had never changed, no matter how many procedures I underwent or how many hormones I took. My life was never the same and my body was forever mutilated. People say to me now, “Too bad. It was your choice. You should have made a more informed decision.”

Through my website, SexChangeRegret.com, I hear from people with similar experiences as mine, and in every case, the gender dysphoria is a result of childhood developmental issues. Treating the psychological or psychiatric disorder is the answer, not changing genders.

It is crazy to routinely experiment on kids at any age when it carries the risk of irreversible changes and could lead to regrettable outcomes as an adult.

[GMDino]

(05-18-2016, 12:51 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Abusing children is a problem.    And the doctors pushing this treatment for such a bs thing like this ... They should lose their licenses.    It's criminal to prey on the ignorant and making parents feel like this is the only way to go is wrong.    Most of these kids grow out of it when they  hit puberty and once they start taking  hormone treatments the liklihood of suicide raises.    

You've made lots of accusations.  Please provide some proof that doctors are "pushing" for this treatment.

Everything else I thought to write concerning your opinion on this matter and the words you post would be a bannable offense.

[BmorePat87]

I'm glad a thread about recognizing a day to stand against discrimination has turned into an attack on those being discriminated against.

[Griever]

(05-18-2016, 01:28 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://thefederalist.com/2015/02/02/what-parents-should-know-about-giving-hormones-to-trans-kids/

For anyone who thinks these hormone treatments are just the best thing on earth.  

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/06/02/what-the-media-should-know-about-walt-heyer-and/203855

IF, as you say, they have a mental illness, why are you citing someone with a mental illness as a credible source?