(10-18-2018, 03:11 PM)GMDino Wrote: All three tweets:
I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S.....
....In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!..
....The assault on our country at our Southern Border, including the Criminal elements and DRUGS pouring in, is far more important to me, as President, than Trade or the USMCA. Hopefully Mexico will stop this onslaught at their Northern Border. All Democrats fault for weak laws!
(10-18-2018, 03:11 PM)GMDino Wrote: Seems pretty clear he thinks the leaders of other countries can "control" their population to keep them from leaving.
To be fair, there are many in America that think the leader(s) of OUR country can "control" other populations from entering.
(10-18-2018, 03:35 PM)PhilHos Wrote: To be fair, there are many in America that think the leader(s) of OUR country can "control" other populations from entering.
Which makes me wonder if Trump is one of them, or if he is just playing on the ignorance of others to rile his base.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR
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(10-18-2018, 03:44 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Which makes me wonder if Trump is one of them, or if he is just playing on the ignorance of others to rile his base.
I thought the ignorant WAS his base.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
To comment on that herd trying to get into Mexico from wherever it was then make there way here.
Not a fan of Trump running with a story that it was infiltrated by ISIS members to get into our country. Just saw this on CNN site as a headline. But senior officials have said there is no evidence of that.
Odd thing he doesn't even need to say that. I think the sane ones on the left, most moderates, and pretty much everyone to the right wants them people to turn around and go home, instead of just crossing over illegally. Or get in line like everyone else has to.
(10-22-2018, 08:25 PM)Millhouse Wrote: To comment on that herd trying to get into Mexico from wherever it was then make there way here.
Not a fan of Trump running with a story that it was infiltrated by ISIS members to get into our country. Just saw this on CNN site as a headline. But senior officials have said there is no evidence of that.
Odd thing he doesn't even need to say that. I think the sane ones on the left, most moderates, and pretty much everyone to the right wants them people to turn around and go home, instead of just crossing over illegally. Or get in line like everyone else has to.
From the pictures I've seen, some of "that herd" don't seem the wait-in-line type.
Soon, it would spread across the internet, as these things do. Same picture. Mostly the same caption. But, as you can see by these examples, different accounts.
The problem, according to a deep dive from Snopes: It’s not true. The main image, which was taken during a clash in Mexico City in 2012, is just another attempt to demonize the refugees and spread fears over immigration.
You can see the image used in this 2012 story.
“These pictures do not capture police officers who were brutalized by members of the immigrant caravan making its way toward the U.S. in October 2018,” Snopes explained. “They’re all several years old and depict the aftermath of altercations between police officers and protesters in Mexico.”
Snopes wasn’t the only one to point this out, of course:
Nevertheless, plenty believed it. That long list apparently includes Ginni Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, who posted it on her page: Facebook
To be fair, it’s not that hard to get duped on the internet. But before the post was pulled from Thomas’s page on Wednesday, she left it up for days, even as several commenters, including Mike Burkons, pointed out the clear falsehood.
“Ginni, do you even care that the pic you posted isn’t from the caravan and is from 2012?” he wrote. “I hope your husband actually thinks facts are important before he decides a case unlike his wife.”
“While it’s something we should have caught sooner, we were able to identify and address duplicate versions of this photo that were being shared elsewhere on Facebook,” the company said. “Thanks to a ‘false’ rating from one of our third-party fact-checkers on this photo, we’ve been able to demote these duplicate posts in News Feed.”
Meanwhile, the president continues to use the caravan to motivate voters on the issue of immigration as the midterms draw closer. Earlier this week, he said the U.S. will do what it takes to keep them out and “will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing” foreign aid to the countries involved.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(10-30-2018, 09:20 AM)GMDino Wrote: So the 7000 or so immigrants are at least two weeks away from the border...and Trump sends 5000 (more) troops to stop them from entering "illegally".
Does this seem like overkill/theatrics to anyone else?
Give it up, Dino. Some of us can see right through you.
It's not just about Soros and ISIS anymore. Time for Americans to ask, "What diseases are these people bringing."
(11-02-2018, 06:43 AM)Arturo Bandini Wrote: If your president is scared by this caravan of toddlers and moms imagine how panicked he was to go to VietNam. Thank God for these bone spurs.
Quote:The congressman disputed a story we reported. We stand by it.
Last week, Adam Rubenstein visited Iowa to report on Steve King’s re-election effort. He filed severalpiecesfrom there, including one that reported on comments King made before a small meeting with voters in Webster City. The headline of that article was: “ Did Steve King Just Refer to Immigrants as ‘Dirt?’” In the story, Adam reported on a jocular exchange King had with a supporter, in which King says that if he wants to grow spicy jalapenos, he’ll have to import dirt from Mexico. When King laughs at his comment, an attendee interjects, saying the dirt from Mexico is already “on the way.” King agrees, saying, “there’s plenty of dirt" coming from Mexico, the West Coast and other places, too. “This is the most dirt we’ve ever seen.” Adam transcribed and printed the entire exchange as part of his article.
King wasn’t happy. His son, Jeff, who also serves as his campaign manager, called and insisted that his father had been misquoted, and accused Adam of fabrication. I told him that his father was quoted accurately and explained that while we would not be emailing him the recording, we reserved the right to post the audio.
On Friday and Saturday, Congressman King sentseveraltweetscriticizing THE WEEKLY STANDARD, claiming we knowingly posted false information and suggesting we weren’t releasing the audio because it doesn’t exist. “You heard it directly from Jeff King and chose to defend your junk yard dog. You refused to release the tape,” he wrote. He later added: “Just release the full tape. Leftists lies exist without original sources because they are false and manufactured accusations. Weekly Standard is transitioning into ‘Antifa News.’”
King's claims are false. Here is the audio. The exchange, as transcribed, starts at about the 20-second mark. King is quoted accurately throughout.
So, King claimed our reporter lied. He didn’t. He claimed we didn’t have a recording. We do. He insisted we refused to release the audio. Untrue. It’s worth remembering these things as you evaluate the credibility of the claim from King—a man with a history of bigoted comments and a recent obsession with the “caravan” of immigrants traveling through Mexico to the United States—that he wasn’t talking about immigrants when he joked about “dirt” on its way to the U.S. from Mexico.
One final note. I spoke with Adam immediately after the meeting adjourned—before he wrote his story. In our conversation, Adam told me that when King realized a journalist might have heard the “dirt” exchange he became nervous and abruptly changed the subject. I left to Adam the decision whether to include that detail in his original report. He decided to leave it out and wrote a largely straightforward account. We’ve included that audio here, above. Immediately after King comments that “this is the most dirt that we’ve ever seen,” he says: “This is actually not supposed to start for another six minutes, is it? But, so we’re just kind of chatting here informally here until things get rolling.”
We stand by the story.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
You got some problems if you are conservative and the Weekly Standard is coming after you.
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(11-13-2018, 08:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: This is fake news.
This is a crazy story, but you might be correct.
I have seen a clip where Carlson is talking about litter and out of the blue he says "I hate litter. That is one of the reasons I am against immigration." Seemed like a narky comment by him at the time. However I just saw a clip from many years ago where Carlson says the same thing except this time he adds "Illegal immigration creates a lot of litter".
So I will concede that Carlson did not call immigrants "litter", but it seems crazy for litter to be the main reason he hates immigration. Especially since Carlson is one of those who is also against legal immigration not because of economics but because of the threat to our culture from Mexicans and Muslims.
(11-13-2018, 08:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This is a crazy story, but you might be correct.
I have seen a clip where Carlson is talking about litter and out of the blue he says "I hate litter. That is one of the reasons I am against immigration." Seemed like a narky comment by him at the time. However I just saw a clip from many years ago where Carlson says the same thing except this time he adds "Illegal immigration creates a lot of litter".
So I will concede that Carlson did not call immigrants "litter", but it seems crazy for litter to be the main reason he hates immigration. Especially since Carlson is one of those who is also against legal immigration not because of economics but because of the threat to our culture from Mexicans and Muslims.
King's claims are false. Here is the audio. The exchange, as transcribed, starts at about the 20-second mark. King is quoted accurately throughout.
So, King claimed our reporter lied. He didn’t. He claimed we didn’t have a recording. We do. He insisted we refused to release the audio. Untrue. It’s worth remembering these things as you evaluate the credibility of the claim from King—a man with a history of bigoted comments and a recent obsession with the “caravan” of immigrants traveling through Mexico to the United States—that he wasn’t talking about immigrants when he joked about “dirt” on its way to the U.S. from Mexico.
Now even conservative publications are attacking right wing Trump supporters by reporting what they actually say.
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