Trump shares video of "great people" yelling "white power" at pro Trump parade

[JSR18]

(06-30-2020, 04:07 PM)Nately120 Wrote: So you only believe Republicans unless they disagree with Trump in which case they are no longer Republicans unlike Trump who has been a "Republican" how long, exactly?

What does that have to do with the price of tea? He's Republican now...

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[Lucidus]

(06-30-2020, 03:58 PM)JSR18 Wrote: The Lincoln project is nothing but a bunch of "never Trumpers" and RINOs. All they want is ANYBODY that is 100% establishment that can be controlled by the swamp lifers.

Trump is not close to that, and it chaps everybody's ass so bad they're all walking around in pain.

The fact that anybody would align themselves with a party that welcomes Biden, Schumer, Pelosi and the SQUAD boggles my mind

If Heaven forbid, the above gets elected. This once proud country will dissolve in to a national CHOP...

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Your correct, Trump is not a professional politician. He's a professional conman --- who's bankrupted multiple businesses, lost insane sums of money through incredibly poor investments, used charitable foundations for personal gain, screwed over countless services and small businesses by not paying his tabs, has repeatedly turned on those closest to him during his life, repeatedly flaunts his ignorance and immorality, and for decades donated to and supported many of the same Democrats you detest. 

He has redefined the "swamp" in a way that takes it to even further into the depths of the corrupt, unethical and immoral than ever.

[JSR18]

(06-30-2020, 04:48 PM)Lucidus Wrote: I must say, reading through your last few posts, you seem to be embodying the caricature of what the worst type of Trump supporter thinks and represents. You've proudly lauded your own ignorance about the opposition, while at the same time, fail to recognize that you seemingly know very little about Trump. You seem to loathe Democrats, yet have no issue supporting a man who was a life long Democrat until about 9 years ago when it became more advantageous to refer to himself as a conservative Republican. I dare say the majority of Republicans don't consider Trump and Republican, or even conservative for that matter.

He stands for none of the things you have espoused being passionate about, yet you flagrantly disregard that reality in favor of extreme tribalism and cult-like worship. When you state that you disregard everything not Republican, you are demonstrating a level of childlike behavior in which you insert fingers to ears and refuse to listen to anything that doesn't fit neatly within your very confined ideological bubble.

As it pertains to the MSM and your disregard of any news or information derived from such sources, may I ask what paragons of immaculate integrity you gather your news from. I'm interested to hear what these completely unbiased and incredibly reliable sources are so that I might have a gander. 

Everything you said is completely opposite of the truth. Have you been to a Trump rally? 101% Patriotic.
I don't listen to anything from the left that espouses anti-capitalism and advocates hand-outs, sharing the wealth and/or advocating socialist progressive ideas.
My news is gained from Fox News because every other MSM is dripping with liberal, anti Trump bull shit...

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[hollodero]

(06-30-2020, 05:10 PM)JSR18 Wrote: Trump is anti-swamp because he can't/won't be controlled by the established Republicans or Democrats...

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This definition of anti-swamp makes zero sense to me.

I mean, there they sit, in his cabinet, in Congress, getting as much money from big donors as ever, being lobbied as bad as ever.
Why would they "control" Trump? As swamp creatures, he gives them everything they want. Tax breaks and no restrictions in any way. Wall street influence is as big as it ever was, big money benefits as ever... these are really good times for the swamp.

(06-30-2020, 05:19 PM)JSR18 Wrote: Everything you said is completely opposite of the truth. Have you been to a Trump rally? 101% Patriotic.

[*Nately120*]

(06-30-2020, 05:11 PM)JSR18 Wrote: What does that have to do with the price of tea? He's Republican now...

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Sure he is. Trump is a republican now and a bunch of long standing republicans are denouncing him because they apparently were liberal nuts in disguise the entire time. 

[Lucidus]

(06-30-2020, 05:19 PM)JSR18 Wrote: Everything you said is completely opposite of the truth. Have you been to a Trump rally? 101% Patriotic.
I don't listen to anything from the left that espouses anti-capitalism and advocates hand-outs, sharing the wealth and/or advocating socialist progressive ideas.
My news is gained from Fox News because every other MSM is dripping with liberal, anti Trump bull shit...

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Did you literally just say you're pro-Trump and against handouts? Surely you see the irony there?

[JSR18]

(06-30-2020, 05:14 PM)Lucidus Wrote: Your correct, Trump is not a professional politician. He's a professional conman --- who's bankrupted multiple businesses, lost insane sums of money through incredibly poor investments, used charitable foundations for personal gain, screwed over countless services and small businesses by not paying his tabs, has repeatedly turned on those closest to him during his life, repeatedly flaunts his ignorance and immorality, and for decades donated to and supported many of the same Democrats you detest. 

He has redefined the "swamp" in a way that takes it to even further into the depths of the corrupt, unethical and immoral than ever.

...and still he's a better POTUS than Obama, Clinton or Biden ever thought of being...

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[*Nately120*]

(06-30-2020, 05:39 PM)JSR18 Wrote: ...and still he's a better POTUS than Obama, Clinton or Biden ever thought of being...

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Don't forget George W Bush who showed his liberal corruption by speaking out against Trump recently. One living republican president and he's anti-Trump. Wacky.   

[JSR18]

Gentlemen its been fun but we could do this ad nausem. You won't change my mind and God help us all, I won't change yours. I'm out.

Good night and WHO-DEY!

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[*Nately120*]

I knew if we bombarded him with enough fake commie propaganda he'd give up.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(06-30-2020, 10:05 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Ah, the old reference to "many people".

You are learning the playbook well.

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They had a whole congressional hearing about it, Fred.  Spare us your weak attempts at sarcasm and condescension.

Quote:I am lost here.  When has anyone said the PLCAA only applies if a company is politically neutral?  Are these "many people" also trying to remove protection under the PLCAA for any company that is not politically neutral?

You didn't answer my question.

[BrownAssClown]

I think people confuse "Never Trumpers" as hating the Republican party as a whole. I am a leaning to the center Democrat that has voted for Republicans in the past, yet was takin' a back by the Republican led senate during the Trump impeachment for not doing their duty and failing to live up to their oath of office. I held Rob Portman in high esteem until that moment. Yes, I was a "Never Trumper" because I could and can see him for exactly what he is. I never voted for governor Mike DeWine for anything before, but he as earned my respect and my vote if he decides to run for re-election as our Governor for the way he has conducted himself during the Covid-19 crisis. Every day DeWine proves his leadership and every day Trump proves to be the baffoon I thought he was all along. BTW, folks that decry "The Lincoln Project" are the same ones that stood up and cheered "The Swift Boat Vets", funny how that works.

[Dill]

(06-30-2020, 05:45 PM)JSR18 Wrote: Gentlemen its been fun but we could do this ad nausem. You won't change my mind and God help us all, I won't change yours. I'm  out.

Good night and WHO-DEY!

Darn.

I was going to ask how you think Biden or Hillary would have responded to the Report on the Russian bounties for killing US troops.

If Trump wants to win in November, then some of his supporters need to explain why his response so far is not dereliction of duty.

[fredtoast]

(06-29-2020, 04:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You can't make a law that has zero to do with political neutrality (47 USC 230) and then try to claim  it is somehow based on political neutrality.  

(06-29-2020, 04:59 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I wonder if you have the same opinion of the law banning lawsuits against fire arms manufacturers when someone uses one of their firearms to kill someone illegally?

(06-30-2020, 10:05 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I am lost here.  When has anyone said the PLCAA only applies if a company is politically neutral? 

(06-30-2020, 08:36 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You didn't answer my question.

Sorry, but I thought I did answer your question.

I don't think protection under the PLCAA should have anything to do with the political neutrality of gun makers, and I am not aware of anyone making that argument.

[fredtoast]

(06-30-2020, 08:36 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-people-saying-trump-tweet-000000450.html[/quote[/url]]

They had a whole congressional hearing about it, Fred.  Spare us your weak attempts at sarcasm and condescension.

And after the hearing pretty much every legal expert was scratching his head over the Republicans claim that 40 USC 230 has anything to do with politcal neutrality of the providers.  Even the Fox News legal pundit Andrew Napolitano said their position made no sense.

When Trump says "many people" there usually are some people who agree with his position.  But he intentionally uses the term "many" when he knows the overwhelming majority disagrees with him.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(07-01-2020, 10:34 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Sorry, but I thought I did answer your question.

You didn't.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(07-01-2020, 10:49 AM)fredtoast Wrote: And after the hearing pretty much every legal expert was scratching his head over the Republicans claim that 40 USC 230 has anything to do with politcal neutrality of the providers.  Even the Fox News legal pundit Andrew Napolitano said their position made no sense.

OK, this does nothing to refute my statement.

Quote:When Trump says "many people" there usually are some people who agree with his position.  But he intentionally uses the term "many" when he knows the overwhelming majority disagrees with him.

All of which would be an outstanding argument if you were discussing this with Donald Trump.

[fredtoast]

(07-01-2020, 12:23 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You didn't.

Well I have now.


Any comments on my answer?

[fredtoast]

(07-01-2020, 12:24 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: OK, this does nothing to refute my statement.

No.  But it shows that the argument "Many people agree" is basically meaningless.

I can say that "many people agree with me that the earth is flat" but it carries no authority.

I just found it interesting that you were using the same ploy that Trump loves to use so often.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(07-01-2020, 06:39 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Well I have now.


Any comments on my answer?

Where?  I don't see anywhere your addressing the firearms industry's immunity from lawsuits over the misuse of their product.

(07-01-2020, 06:43 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No.  But it shows that the argument "Many people agree" is basically meaningless.

I can say that "many people agree with me that the earth is flat" but it carries no authority.

Is one a provable fact and another a matter of interpretation?  Methinks yes.

Quote:I just found it interesting that you were using the same ploy that Trump loves to use so often.

I wasn't using any "ploy", I was pointing out that many people do not agree with your interpretation, which is factual.  You then chose to attempt to tar me with the Trump brush.  Not a tone for civil conversation.