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RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - hollodero - 12-06-2017 (12-06-2017, 08:31 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Oh, absolutely. I already related on this board that I have a friend who was groped by him at an event. She was stunned and mortified and afterwards he was with a group of guys talking, they all looked over at her and laughed. Even without that first hand account I would believe them, Trump certainly gives off that kind of vibe. Alright, must have missed that. Which might open up a whole bunch of follow-up questions... but for now you indeed carried this hot iron, I'll leave it at that. (12-06-2017, 08:31 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Maybe now that I've shown him how it's done GMDino will actually provide a straight answer on this topic for a change. I usually have no intention to get into one of your debates. But this is an exception. I agree, there indeed wasn't a really satisfactory answer as of yet. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 12-06-2017 (12-06-2017, 08:57 PM)hollodero Wrote: Alright, must have missed that. No worries, I certainly don't expect you to have seen every post I've ever made. The thing with Trump, I don't think he's a nice or good person. He's vainglorious, self centered, thin skinned and sexist. The issue is, he was all of those thing when he was elected, none of this is new information. We bought exactly what was on the box, no deceptive packaging here. Quote: I have many faults, what I don't do is duck direct questions or equivocate. I have zero patience or respect for those who do. If you got caught in a contradiction or an inconsistency just own it like a man and we'll move on. The moral cowardice of dodging ownership of this under the flimsy guise of sarcasm or what, for some people, passes for wit is pathetic. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - hollodero - 12-07-2017 (12-06-2017, 09:23 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: No worries, I certainly don't expect you to have seen every post I've ever made. The thing with Trump, I don't think he's a nice or good person. He's vainglorious, self centered, thin skinned and sexist. The issue is, he was all of those thing when he was elected, none of this is new information. We bought exactly what was on the box, no deceptive packaging here. Yeah that all he was and is, and some other things. E.g. he also lies a lot. There was, however, some deception and some things you couldn't foresee. Like Charlottesville, the chaotic admin full of foreign agents and incompetent people, the Russian angle with all the countermeasures like firing FBI directors and such, that he would keep his business (with monthly reports to him and then some), that he would behave so clumsy on the world stage, that he would keep shit-tweeting, endorse the pedophile and such. Many said he'd become presidential, that he'd drain some swamp, that there'd be great healthcare for everyone for a fraction of the cost, that he is a great dealmaker making great deals and some other illusions. There was deception left and right, albeit maybe self-deception at times. But sure, many quite essential things about the birther in chief were on display before the election. Which makes it all the more (and not less) puzzling why decent intelligent conservative-leaning people would still go for him. I do understand the Hillary conundrum and I too think she's quite a terrible candidate and comes with a few red flags, but that doesn't explain going for the clown bus wrapped in red flags instead. But that I already asked and it was already answered along the lines of "Maxine Waters is hysterical" and some other supersolid reasons, so. I will never understand it though, why you bought this box and keep not throwing it away despite all the Breitbartian combination of vile and stupid that takes over ideologically and whispers in Donald's ear. I feel at this point your chosen adversaries, the liberals that have a history of not really driving the country into the ground, are way closer to conservatives than this destructive alt-right wing, and Trump definitely sells as a representative of the latter; and if you know Trump you must also know how reprehensible the Bannon wing is. That's what I do not get. A conservative could be with Jeff Flake and not betray a conservative bone by that. Yet, it's this guy, and somehow "no deceptive packaging, we knew he's a douchebag" counts as a plus for him. And now I learn you knew quite well he indeed gropes women, and still. Utterly confusing. And voting for him is one thing, sticking to him and go after his critics instead is yet another thing. (I'm not saying you especially do this all the time... but there's some element of that) (12-06-2017, 09:23 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I have many faults Sure, you're a sociopathic steeler fan. The first treat is forgivable. (12-06-2017, 09:23 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: what I don't do is duck direct questions or equivocate. I have zero patience or respect for those who do. If you got caught in a contradiction or an inconsistency just own it like a man and we'll move on. The moral cowardice of dodging ownership of this under the flimsy guise of sarcasm or what, for some people, passes for wit is pathetic. OK, in principle I try to conduct myself among these lines and I don't care being caught in a contradiction, especially on a message board, on the contrary it's a chance to adapt my positions. I stick to the general response here though, I do not intend to get dragged into your specific feud with Dino. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - GMDino - 12-07-2017 Remember when Trump admitted he "said things and did things"? People forgave and voted for him. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - Mike M (the other one) - 12-08-2017 (12-07-2017, 06:18 PM)GMDino Wrote: Remember when Trump admitted he "said things and did things"? Can you please post an apology from Hillary? She only put those poor women down for years... Trump's accusers only came out once he was running. hollodero, Samsung creating a 17B chip plant in Austin, TX Samsonite relocating manufacturing jobs back to the US Foxcon setting up a plant in the US: 7B 30-40k jobs Kia/Hyndai new plant 3.1B Alibaba Group creating the software to allow US small businesses to sell directly to China Toyota 9-10B upgrading existing plants to increase production Softbank 50B and 50k new jobs expanding into the US. GM 1B shifted back to US instead of investing overseas. Ford abandoning Mexico plant, re-investing 700Mil in Detriot plant. Chrysler 1B Michigan and Ohio plants Broadcom moving HQ from Singapore back to the US. Bayer 16B, half in agriculture research in the US IBM 1B in jobs in the US Lockheed Martin saved the US money on the f-35 plane they were developing and planning to create more jobs here. Dow Chemicals new state of the art plant in Midland, Texas at dinner for Trump. Trans-Lux sped up their process of bringing a plant back to the US from China I know there's more that I'm missing. Just giving you a brief run down on some that made announcements after meeting with Trump or after he was declared POTUS. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - GMDino - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 02:59 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Can you please post an apology from Hillary? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sexual-assault-allegations-claims-women-how-many-groping-accused-us-president-a8091581.html Quote:Here’s a roundup of those women who have accused Mr Trump of sexual assault or harassment. Some were brought forward long before Trump's run for office. Has he apologized for saying they were liars? Oh and you forgot Benghazi. And can we have links to the those deals? Thanks! RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - Benton - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 02:59 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Can you please post an apology from Hillary? Uhhhh... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump From cheating people he employed to people he did business with to sexual assaults, it was a long list well before he ever announced. Quote:hollodero, Eh, most of those have more to do with rising costs overseas. And giant tax breaks. Samsonite, for example, considered the move last year (as far as I know they still haven't done anything) due to rising labor costs in China (think that was where they currently make luggage). For the others, like Foxconn, I dunno how much of a benefit. They're getting $3 billion in incentives and tax breaks and direct subsidies... for a $7 billion investment. In other words, about half. And if their last announcements hold true, it may be not much of anything. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - Mike M (the other one) - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 03:16 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sexual-assault-allegations-claims-women-how-many-groping-accused-us-president-a8091581.html I won't deny that he's probably done something to some of them. with only he said she saids, not much can be done, so who knows. He's definitely the type that would take an advantage of his power, no one is that clueless about Trump. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - Mike M (the other one) - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 03:21 PM)Benton Wrote: Eh, most of those have more to do with rising costs overseas. And giant tax breaks. Doesn't really matter. Trump is POTUS. It's happening on his watch. S&P 500 remains strong under Trump. Unemployment at a 17 year low. GDP Growth has improved. Manufacturing jobs on the rise. Home prices slowing rebounding. Yes some of these are Trends that would have happened anyways, but again, it's happening on Trumps watch so that's how it will go down in the eyes of the majority of the people. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - Benton - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 03:57 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Doesn't really matter. As partisan as things are, I doubt the majority of people do. The majority of people voted against trump, so unless he ends world hunger my guess is the majority of people still won’t like anything he does. And that’s ok, people shouldn’t like or dislike something based on the person, they should be looking at the policy that created the situation. In this case, the policy was a more stable economy created, in part, by oversight and market regulation, which is largely being cast away. That’s troublesome. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - bfine32 - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 05:44 PM)Benton Wrote: As partisan as things are, I doubt the majority of people do. The majority of people voted against trump, so unless he ends world hunger my guess is the majority of people still won’t like anything he does. Nobody got the majority of the vote If Trump ended world hunger there would still be a population complaining about the menu. Just see your last 2 sentences to support my second point. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - Nately120 - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 08:08 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Nobody got the majority of the vote Technically, he said the majority of people voted against Trump, which would mean Clinton plus other non-Trump votes, which would be 53.91 and therefore the majority. Then again, that same criteria means 51.82, and ergo the majority of voters, voted against Hilary, too. That really sums up this election quite well, if I do say so myself. Clinton.....48.18 Trump.....46.09 Other.......5.73 RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - bfine32 - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 08:26 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Technically, he said the majority of people voted against Trump, which would mean Clinton plus other non-Trump votes, which would be 53.91 and therefore the majority. Then again, that same criteria means 51.82, and ergo the majority of voters, voted against Hilary, too. That really sums up this election quite well, if I do say so myself. And untechnically I said no one got the majority of the vote. Not sure if you are agreeing with what I said, disagreeing, or just saying. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - GMDino - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 09:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: And untechnically I said no one got the majority of the vote. The majority of the votes cast? Is that a better way to say it? RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - bfine32 - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 10:06 PM)GMDino Wrote: The majority of the votes cast? Is that a better way to say it? Nope. RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - Nately120 - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 09:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: And untechnically I said no one got the majority of the vote. You just interjected when he said that in a tone that indicated you were being some sort of smug "I'm right and you're wrong" sort of fellow. Where the hell I would get such a notion from the likes of you is beyond me! RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - GMDino - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 10:28 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Nope. How about more people voted for other people than voted for Trump? Or this some kind of way to deny he lost the popular vote? RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - GMDino - 12-08-2017 http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/oct/18/allegations-about-donald-trump-and-miss-teen-usa-c/ Quote:Trump’s words RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - bfine32 - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 10:33 PM)GMDino Wrote: How about more people voted for other people than voted for Trump?And more people voted for other people than they did any candidate. So to point out that one candidate didn't get the majority of the vote sorta falls in the "so what" category. Not sure how that is "denying" who won the popular vote. What do you get for that by the way? RE: Trump may face a reckoning in case brought by female accuser - bfine32 - 12-08-2017 (12-08-2017, 10:29 PM)Nately120 Wrote: You just interjected when he said that in a tone that indicated you were being some sort of smug "I'm right and you're wrong" sort of fellow. Where the hell I would get such a notion from the likes of you is beyond me! Nope, just pointed out that no one got the majority of the vote. But kudos to you and your ability to detect tone. |