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(11-18-2015, 03:16 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Oil. Rare earth minerals. At this point, we couldn't get our dicks out of their asses if Lucie walked in on us in the locker room.
Oh....I be knowing.....so quit cowering to big oil and get some goddamned alternatives up and going. I know they don't want to piss off their campaign "contributors" (see supplemental income from bribes), but at some point, you gotta start worrying about your constituents and the greater good.....right?
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(11-18-2015, 02:57 PM)Wyche Wrote: Meh....I live in the south.....and I don't see it. Sure it happens, maybe more so to do with the nutjub HIMSELF than the religion, but not to the extent the Radical Muslims take it.
Maybe the world powers should just leave the region altogether and let them sort it out. It seems to be what they are clamoring for.....or am I missing something? If they want to remain in the 16th or 17th century way of life.....let them. Those who don't want to live that way, should be allowed to leave and settle where they want. Problem solved......or is it?
I need to find it but there is a military theory that this area is the key to controlling the world.
I can't remember the name. Maybe someone else can recall.
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(11-18-2015, 03:16 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Oil. Rare earth minerals. At this point, we couldn't get our dicks out of their asses if Lucie walked in on us in the locker room.
Hey as long as you are in the men's restroom/locker room with your buddies then it's cool with me.
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(11-18-2015, 03:44 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I need to find it but there is a military theory that this area is the key to controlling the world.
I can't remember the name. Maybe someone else can recall.
Yeah, I've heard that theory too. It has to do with oil. Cut your dependency on oil.
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(11-18-2015, 03:48 PM)Wyche Wrote: Yeah, I've heard that theory too. It has to do with oil. Cut your dependency on oil.
I thought it was more to do wth strategic location of the region
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/14/buck-sexton-breaks-down-mackinders-geographical-pivot-of-history-and-how-it-relates-to-the-world-today/
Quote:Sexton pointed to an esoteric work by Halford Mackinder called “The Geographical Pivot of History,” saying: “[Mackinder] was really the father of modern geo-political strategy. And what you have here is the map that is based upon his ‘Geographical Pivot of History’ paper that he published in 1904. What this essentially says is for a country to rule the world — for it to be the preeminent power of the world — it has to control this area.”
“Anybody who controls this controls resources that have dramatic impact on the geo-stratetic balance of the world,” he continued to explain. “This, by the way, also gives us a sense of why the U.S. has bases surrounding the area.”
He added: “This is essentially where all the world powers meet — and it’s determined by geography, not even necessarily ideology.”
Sexton explained that for a great power, you need great resources. When Mackinder came up with the theory, coal, timber, and iron ore were the resources that powered the world.
“However, now with the fossil fuel economy, you bring the Middle East into the equation, it dramatically changes the entire thing,” he said. “You’ve talked about World War III…If it’s going to happen it will be triggered in this area because that’s the only place where these world powers collide.”
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(11-18-2015, 03:50 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I thought it was more to do wth strategic location of the region
That's what was said....but I believe it has more to do oil now, I should have been more clear. With advanced aircraft, missile systems, and floating airfields, and nuclear subs.....it doesn't seem to me that ANY place is of much more strategic importance than any other these days. That was all based off of old trade routes and the central location of the Middle East to them....if memory serves.
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(11-18-2015, 03:44 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I need to find it but there is a military theory that this area is the key to controlling the world.
I can't remember the name. Maybe someone else can recall.
You're thinking of "The Great Game" which isn't a military theory.
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(11-18-2015, 06:54 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You're thinking of "The Great Game" which isn't a military theory.
Hmmm.....I thought it was a military theory as well......re-learned something today!
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(11-18-2015, 05:51 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: Interesting read. Long but interesting.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
Very dang long. Interesting though.
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(11-18-2015, 05:51 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: Interesting read. Long but interesting.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
(11-18-2015, 08:14 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Very dang long. Interesting though.
Indeed very long, but well worth it.
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(11-18-2015, 05:07 PM)Wyche Wrote: That's what was said....but I believe it has more to do oil now, I should have been more clear. With advanced aircraft, missile systems, and floating airfields, and nuclear subs.....it doesn't seem to me that ANY place is of much more strategic importance than any other these days. That was all based off of old trade routes and the central location of the Middle East to them....if memory serves.
Ah ok. Sorry I read you wrong .
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(11-18-2015, 06:54 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You're thinking of "The Great Game" which isn't a military theory.
Thanks will look it up to make sure. Was thinking geographical pivot of history.
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(11-18-2015, 05:51 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: Interesting read. Long but interesting.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
I have read this when it came out. It's a great article . Thanks for sharing and reminding me . This is worth a save.
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(11-18-2015, 10:49 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Ah ok. Sorry I read you wrong .
Nah.....it was my fault man....sometimes I'm too much into that "whole brevity thing" , and I'm not very clear....
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http://news.yahoo.com/honduras-arrests-five-syrians-headed-us-stolen-passports-204536480.html
Quote:Honduras arrests five Syrians headed to US with stolen passports
Tegucigalpa (AFP) - Honduran authorities have arrested five Syrians intending to make it to the United States with stolen Greek passports, triggering alarm Wednesday in the wake of the Paris attacks launched by Syria-linked jihadists.
The Syrians were arrested on Tuesday as they flew into Toncontin airport serving the Honduran capital and failed to make it past airport security checks, a police spokesman, Anibal Baca, told reporters.
"Five Syrian citizens have been detained and will be taken to our offices to be investigated because it is suspected they are carrying false documents, passports stolen in Greece," Baca said.
They had traveled by air from Syria to Lebanon, then to Turkey, Brazil, Argentina, Costa Rica and on to Honduras.
From there they were to make their way to Honduras' second city of San Pedro Sula with the aim of going overland through Guatemala, then Mexico and on to the United States, Baca told AFP.
The reasons for the Syrians' trip were not immediately known, and Honduran police were considering the possibility that they were refugees fleeing the war in Syria.
[url=http://news.yahoo.com/photos/honduran-policemen-escort-one-five-syrian-citizens-arrested-photo-221639840.html][/url]Honduran policemen escort one of five Syrian citizens arrested at the Tocontin international airport …
"We are not saying they are terrorists," Baca said. "They are being investigated for using false passports. It could be they are fleeing war. That is being investigated."
Countries involved in the Syria conflict, including the United States, have been on alert for possible attacks since the killings in Paris last Friday and the October 31 bombing of a Russian passenger jet leaving Egypt.
Those attacks have been claimed by the Islamic State group based in Iraq and Syria. One of the gunmen in the Paris attacks was carrying a Syrian passport used to transit through Greece, though authorities have not confirmed that he was the man in the document.
Honduras on Monday said it had reinforced security in its ports and airports following the French attacks.
A spokesman for the country's Inter-institutional Security Force, Lieutenant Colonel Santos Nolasco, said that day that Honduras was part of a route to the United States often used by unauthorized migrants.
This year, 12,600 foreigners were detected illegally entering Honduras, almost all of them with the aim of getting to the United States, Nolasco said.
Those detained by authorities include nationals of Somalia, Iran, Ghana, Ethiopia, Senegal, Cameroon, Guinea, Sri Lanka, Eritrea, Togo, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Nepal, as well as of other Latin American countries.
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(11-19-2015, 01:07 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: Purely to add to the discussion...
They seem like a nice family.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/11/17/first-ones-here-syrian-family-settles/75902946/
These are the people you want to help. 18-40 year old males...flying solo....with sketchy paperwork...are the ones who need to be put through the mill.
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(11-19-2015, 12:54 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: I'm sure they just wanted to borrow a cup of sugar.
http://news.yahoo.com/honduras-arrests-five-syrians-headed-us-stolen-passports-204536480.html
Are you telling me they got caught at the border? By Honduran savages enforcing the law?
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