10-29-2021, 12:23 PM
(10-29-2021, 11:58 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: As a producer, he is civilly liable because of the working conditions that caused staff to walk off and for the employment of a negligent armorer. He and the rest of the production staff will face some serious liability claims and they need to. The glee I have seen from some, though, has been really bad. This isn't to say my affinity for dark humor hasn't led me to chuckle at some of the memes, especially because I can't stand Baldwin, but at the same time you have several ruined lives, one of them completely lost, with this incident. The firearms community should come together to show compassion but seek accountability. The approach we've seen from some will be used against us for a long time.
I agree. Some of the memes have been clever but many have been downright nasty. I get the appeal for some of taking the piss out of a vehement anti-gun person who negligently killed someone with a gun. Also, while I enjoy Baldwin as an actor (his character in 30 Rock is near perfection) he's an insufferable prick off the set. But yes, the glee that some have in mocking him has been a bad look to be sure.
On a related note, a YouTube channel I watch, I don't recall which at the moment, raised an interesting point regarding the push to ban firearms on set after this incident. They pointed out that Brandon Lee died under much less negligent, but still negligent, circumstances and there was no such push then. Additionally, the move seems like more than a little bit of an overreaction to me. This kind of thing is exceedingly rare, and won't happen at all with a competent armorer on set. How many people are killed on the job by forklifts every year? We certainly don't see a drive to ban forklifts. I suppose, for some, your life only matters if your death is news worthy.
(10-29-2021, 12:09 PM)Nately120 Wrote: The counter to Alec Baldwin being culpable has shifted to the 24 year old woman who had a shaky history of professional conduct as the firearms person (the term/job title I just learned because of this escapes me at the moment). So we can have the right wing laughing at a peacenick ultra lib shooting and killing someone and a blonde who loved posing with guns being blamed by the left. Each side gets their scapegoat and so on. Meanwhile someone is dead, but hey...again...what is one more life in the latest cold/civil war we have going on in this country.
Of course I'm assuming the woman who was in charge in this situation can be molded into a stand in for the "conservatives are to blame" side of things. I don't know her background or affiliation or any of that stuff (not that that matters too much).
Baldwin is/was a producer. He is in charge of the production, safety being included within that. I would be in total agreement with you if he was just a paid actor on set. By all accounts thus far they were trying to get by on the cheap with this movie and there were numerous safety violations and concerns, so much so that people had already walked off set because of it. Also, the armorer appears to be atypical Hollywood nepotism hire. A story recently came out that she was lambasted by Nicholas Cage for unsafe/unprofessional behavior on a previous set. So she had a history.
