10-29-2021, 12:57 PM
(10-29-2021, 12:44 PM)jj22 Wrote: To believe in his self defense argument that some are quick to support is to believe that when someone comes to you (travels to your house, your neighborhood, your school, your place of business - all the way from another state, and kills you after you respond to their confrontation and maybe **gasp** fight them, chase them, throw something at them and then cries and claims self defense. Is a dangerous twist to the law. It shouldn't be accepted and if not for politics it wouldn't be.
Dude, no it's not. You're standing in legal quicksand here. It wouldn't matter if Rittenhouse traveled to Kenosha from Hong Kong, that has zero bearing on a claim of self defense.
Quote:The issue is to the common folk. That isn't self defense. That is getting involved in some mess you shouldn't have been involved in and getting away with murder after you went looking for trouble.
Again, no. He has as much of a right to be there as absolutely anyone else who was there. You don't get free reign to assault someone if they don't live in the area in which they're being assaulted.
Quote:Example. When I was young, a group of kids got off at my bus stop (not theirs) to fight me (after bullying me all bus ride for half the school year, so they were looking for trouble). Only 1 actually fought me, but I fought back and handled myself enough to where I wasn't bullied any longer, and if they would have shot me, who would have supported their self defense claim? No one hopefully. But politics aren't involved and common sense would be.
You are correct, as they were the aggressors, not you. Show me one piece of evidence that Rittenhouse initiated the physical confrontation(s). We have reams of actual video showing the exact opposite. You're being willfully blind to the facts here, dude. Your position is one of pure emotion and is completely divorced from the law.
Let's say I travel to the Bay Area to join a counter protest for a cause I believe in. I am armed, as I am legally allowed to be within the state of California. Some protestors initiate a physical confrontation with me. I attempt to flee the confrontation rather than fight. They pursue me, while someone fires a hand gun behind me. Then a guy catches up to me and attempts to rob me of my firearm. I then shoot him to prevent this. As I continue to attempt to flee, another protestor strikes me in the head and shoulder area with a skateboard. While he continues attempts to strike me with a skateboard I shoot him. Does my coming from the Los Angeles area to join a counter protest in the Bay Area have any bearing whatsoever on whether I was legally defending myself? Absolutely, 100%, no!
Your position here is simply not a tenable one. It's demonstrably false with a foundation constructed solely of irrelevancies.
