Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

[Dill]

(10-29-2021, 12:44 PM)jj22 Wrote: What are we telling people who want to kill? Go seek trouble, start trouble, and kill and claim self defense.

The truth is self defense doesn't mean you can bringing a gun to a fist fight (protests) that you traveled to, shoot someone that you are now scared of, and after  claim self defense.

This goes back to my point about be careful what you support because you support the shooter. This law won't change until black people start following white teens and starting fights with them and then killing them as the white teen begins to get the better of them (ala Zimmerman). Or when black teens (or any minority teen) go to the next "Good People" Nazi protests and get's chased with those holding torches and turns and shoots a couple of them. It won't change until a black husband and wife comes out their house and points guns at a group of passing white students (who weren't even heading to their house but headed up the street to protest outside of someone else house) threatening them.

And there lies the problem with America and what  we've seen from the beginning. The only time the NRA for example supported gun laws was when black people thought the 2nd amendment was meant for them and tried to open carry. Things tend to not change until those oppressed start taking advantage of the laws that those who oppress use against them and have gotten away with in our legal system.

I think the bolded is one of the most interesting questions raised by this case. 

As is the question of how political viewpoints cant be built into law and then protected from scrutiny, in part by controlling what can count as legal fact/evidence and how "attackers" are defined.  

Who is "innocent until proven guilty"?  Remember the story of Marissa Alexander; a jury took all of 12 minutes to decide Florida's Stand-your-Ground law did not protect her for firing a warning shot into the ceiling of her home when her husband attacked her, and who was sentenced to 20 years in prison?  https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-overturns-20-year-sentence-woman-fired-warning/story?id=20387742

Seems like most people posting here share your perplexity regarding legal determinations of "self-defense" in this country.
Hence all the questions about the legality of R's behavior at various points.