Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

[hollodero]

(11-05-2021, 02:44 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: So, how do you justify putting more restrictions on law abiding citizens when you don't even use the penal code to punish the criminal use of firearms?

Ehm, I guess I don't, I'm for enforcing that penal code.
I see many of the points you and Bels make as fair and I'd agree that a lot of actual measures taken are not within the realms of my own suggestions and I am not advocating many of them. I get that you can and should not confiscate guns, for example.

(11-05-2021, 02:44 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It's all good, I enjoy the perspective of people outside the country on this issue.  It also give us both a chance to learn from the other.  I don't want to derail the thread, so I'll leave it at that

Alright... though there is all said about Rittenhause anyway... according to US laws, he should go free, you made this case convincingly enough.

What I can say about that aside from gun laws (just to add some content still) is that - not to deploy a bad faith argument regarding the trial - I do have a problem with Rittenhouse getting celebrated as some kind of folk hero by large portions of the more extreme right. His deeds get outright celebrated. Doesn't mean he should go to jail as a deterrent, though I can somehow understand that perspective that probably to a large part leads to the numerous refusals of your totally legit take. It just imho is yet another under-discussed example of a deep darkness in the United States coming from the right, a darkness that led to a majority (or at least the most significant portion) of Trump's GOP supporters to come out against accepting election results and against democracy as a whole. And all your guns could do nothing about that threat. The threat to democracy stemming from gun laws, imho, pales in comparison, even if I were to concede all of your points.