Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

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(11-05-2021, 04:11 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You're referring to stand your ground laws, which do not apply here.  I can understand the concerns raised by the laws as written in some states.  I just don't understand how that's relevant to this case, at all.
 
Well, there's certainly not enough information in this "what if" to determine that.  You cannot write the law to cover every possible occurrence, hence the "reasonable person" standard that actually works quite well.

This response was so predictable I would have bet my house it was going to be how you replied. Is your assertion that right wing "protestors" engage in the type of described behavior as much or more than left wing "protestors"?  Evidence from the past few years would strongly indicate the exact opposite, but please make the case if you can.

No. I'm aware WI doesn't have stand your ground laws.

The "reasonable person" standard--I'm betting that in most of these self defense cases, jury selection is the most critical determinant of success for the defense. Think of the current Arbery trial, or Zimmerman before that. The judge in the former has already noted the racial bias in the jury selection, but the law doesn't allow him to do anything about it. 

You might have predicted my response before you understood my point.

I posted two links about a "leftist" who shot a right winger during a riot, and claimed in an interview it was in self defense.
The case never made it to trial, as he was shot by police under questionable circumstances, rather than arrested. 

The reference to the Capitol violence in my response to your post was not an effort to compare which protestors are "worse" or "do it more," right or left, but to suggest we can no longer assume it is only "leftists" attacking police. As far as frequency, I'll grant that after Floyd was killed, there were more "leftist" riots in the U.S. But since 1/6, it is not a given that will be the norm for 2022, as Fox and friends foment midterm election challenges. 

Also note the qualifier "sometimes" in my original post, as in Police don't everywhere and always see armed groups of white men as welcome help during civil unrest. Wherever they do, they are exercising bad judgment.