06-12-2015, 07:55 PM
(06-12-2015, 04:03 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't believe in ID, yet I also do not ignore the structure of the universe.
How does the existence of forces like gravity prove ID?
I could just as easily say that your god is so complex that is proof that he had to be created by another intelligent force. How could such a complex god come from nothing?
I would say there is a likely-hood that if only a small number of things needed to be a specific way, i'd agree that randomness was a real possibility. The sheer number of things that need to be a specific way for life to exist and thrive--as well as for the Universe to operate the way it does--lessens that likely-hood, in my mind, to zilch.
Complexity is in the eye of the beholder. A being that could create the Universe and life probably couldn't be comprehended fully by a life-form they created who can't do something as simple as follow a couple easy suggestions like 'don't kill each other'. And probably chuckles at that simple being trying to rationalize timelessness.
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