Intermediate step to beginning of life uncovered

[Benton]

(06-15-2015, 02:28 PM)Beaker Wrote: Your daughter analogy doesnt address the point. The bible portrays god as omnipotent. It calls him the alpha and the omega....the beginning and the end. He knows all and sees all. You are not omnipotent. You do not know before your daughter chooses what choice she will make. A creator who already sees the beginning and the end does. So when god made Hitler, he already knew the choices Hitler would make....otherwise he was not truly an omnipotent god. Yet he chose to create that being anyway, knowing he would be condemned to hell. It just doesnt make any logical sense.

I dont want to hear about free will. That is irrelevant to the point. The point is that if god is truly all knowing, he is choosing to create those who he already knows will make the wrong choices. Its god's choice we're talking about here, not the human's choice.

And God loved him anyway. Hitler was a horrible being, but that doesn't mean he wasn't loved along with everyone else.

And knowing someone is going to do something (omniscience) is not the same thing as doing it. Knowing they will make the wrong choice doesn't mean He doesn't love them or make Him any less omnipotent. Which is not the same thing as omniscient.

I think your confusion is you're overlapping the two terms.

Omniscient means he knows everything. Omnipotent means he can do anything. One doesn't mean he has to do the other.