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Intermediate step to beginning of life uncovered
(06-15-2015, 05:51 PM)Benton Wrote: ** Presuppose. As in, you have to presuppose that to make it work.

*** Because it's a theory older than Newton's. We hold onto Newton's because it makes things easier to measure and quantify but read up on Immanuel Kant.

**** Frame it that way ("he programmed us to behave in accordance to his foreknowledge of our behavior") and no, there isn't free will. Unless He didn't program us. Maybe He provided some basic building blocks (DNA) a few billion years ago and let it work itself out. It turned into you, me and a few trillion other people over the years. All with the ability to think reason and make decisions.

He defined our abilities (DNA) but not what we did with them (free choice).

And that's how I consider the creation allegory. God made matter, God defined some of it and created the basics for life (DNA) and let it grow. The fact that it took billions of years didn't matter as time is relative to the person experiencing it.

He did more than create the "basics".  He created everything with perfect knowledge of what it would blossom into. He ultimately programmed it that way.





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RE: Intermediate step to beginning of life uncovered - WhoDeyWho - 06-15-2015, 06:07 PM

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