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Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course)
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(03-08-2016, 04:05 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Lol, there is no way that Iloka is a better safety than Nelson right this second. I think you hopped onto the 2014 Iloka hype train a little too unhesitatingly there.

2012-2015....

George Iloka: 51 games / 189 tackles / 0.0 sacks / 20 Pdef / 5 INT / 2 FF  / 0 Pro Bowl, 0 All-Pro
Reggie Nelson: 61 games / 322 tackles / 3.5 sacks / 43 Pdef / 17 INT / 3 FF / 1 Pro Bowl, 1 2nd Team All-Pro

2014-2015 (if you want to argue that Iloka didn't break out until 2014)...

George Iloka: 28 games / 121 tackles / 0.0 sacks / 14 Pdef / 4 INT / 0 FF / 0 Pro Bowl, 0 All-Pro
Reggie Nelson: 32 games / 172 tackles / 1.5 sacks / 27 Pdef / 12 INT / 0 FF / 1 Pro Bowl, 1 2nd Team All-Pro


Yeah, sorry to break it to you Storm, but Nelson is a far better safety right now. The only reason Iloka will get more on the market is because he's much younger and has potential, not because of what he's actually proven.

(03-08-2016, 10:14 AM)Sled21 Wrote: That might be the most ridiculous statement I have read here yet....

I ask both of you to watch both players specifically if you decide to rewatch 2015. Evaluating safeties is difficult is stats are your primary argument. 

If a player is way more consistent in coverage will he get more errand passes thrown at him? Of course not. Allow more catches and then make the sequential tackles? No. This is common sense. There's nothing Reggie can do that Iloka can't, but you ask both to switch roles, then you will see an even bigger decrease in Nelson's quality of play.  

I like Reggie, I always have, but Iloka is worth more because he does his job better, don't let the stats mislead you completely. 
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RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - Stormborn - 03-08-2016, 01:42 PM

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