Trump's First 100 Days

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(02-17-2017, 05:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Given he doesn't carry around a bottle of hot sauce with him everywhere he goes; but we could probably paint anyone racist if we tried.

If Trump had made a hot sauce comment, I would not have listed it here. That was just a stupid thing to say for her and indeed nothing more (imho, all imho). I would not make the racism case because the underlying history just isn't there. I was not a Hillary fan, but calling her racist has no grounds.
Calling Trump racist has grounds, and it's because it's not an equivalence. And maybe "we" could paint anyone racist, but I couldn't. I couldn't paint Hillary racist. I couldn't paint you racist. Not just because I'm too nice of a guy, but just because I love to have some kind of at least half-solid case.
I do believe I have that with Trump.
There was an interesting, yet quickly forgotten moment in one of the debates with Hillary. When racism came up, he did not even make an effort to deny it. His whole response was you're just as bad, don't go with that holier than thou attitude. Maybe it doesn't mean much. I remembered that as strange.
He might really just think everyone is racist, and because he's such a tremendous guy everyone else is just even more racist than him. "I'm the least racist person you'll ever meet." Maybe there's more to that than just strange bragging, and he might not be that complex.
I see my list (plus all the additional things) and think about his attitude and it fits. And I believe the assumption that Trump has racist attitudes to be as objective as possible. No party interests here.

(02-17-2017, 05:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: We have folks in this very thread trying to race-bait and it is sad. We have to decide for ourselves if we think this POTUS is a racist and we can find numerous reasons to support our stances.

I don't think they are just race-baiting or that this is a fair evaluation of their motives. Given they see things similar to me.

(02-17-2017, 05:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I think the birther movement was motivated more by his father being Kenyan and his listed birthplace outside CONUS more so that because Obama was black. The Muslim slant had more to do with the name that skin-color.

Well. Couple things.
First and foremost, it having to do with the name doesn't really make it so much less racist, does it?
Second, Mr. Trump not only created the movement (not him alone, ok), but never cared the tiniest bit about it becoming a pool for undeniably proven racists, that hated Obama for being black and used his being muslim as an equivalency of him being evil. You can see them on the comments boards, they are plenty. All that happened, all that was in the very core of the birther movement, and Mr. Trump was not opposed, did not distance himself, never stood up against it, all those years.
With what the birther thing had to do in the very beginning? I do not really believe the most harmless of explanations (it was a pretty shabby move at the very least), but it doesn't really matter. What matters it what the movement became under the direct aid of Mr. Trump.

(02-17-2017, 05:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Do you think anyone would have accused Herman Cain of being born in Kenya or a Muslim? it's just simplier to cry racist.  

I really don't know. And I do not grasp the point.