Trump's First 100 Days

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(02-17-2017, 06:40 PM)hollodero Wrote: If Trump had made a hot sauce comment, I would not have listed it here. That was just a stupid thing to say for her and indeed nothing more (imho, all imho). I would not make the racism case because the underlying history just isn't there. I was not a Hillary fan, but calling her racist has no grounds.
Calling Trump racist has grounds, and it's because it's not an equivalence. And maybe "we" could paint anyone racist, but I couldn't. I couldn't paint Hillary racist. I couldn't paint you racist. Not just because I'm too nice of a guy, but just because I love to have some kind of at least half-solid case.
I do believe I have that with Trump.

Hillary and many of the libs are akin to slave owners. They placate the minorities to keep them under their control. Hill's hot sauce comment was an example. And of course you would have placed the Hot Sauce comment here is Trump would have made it; as you freely posted about his taco bowl. What is it you said? That's how they roll. Just as you most likely would have used the following quote to solidify the Trump is a racist stance:

"Just as in a previous generation we had an organized effort against the mob. We need to take these people on. They are often connected to big drug cartels, they are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators — no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first, we have to bring them to heel."

Quote:There was an interesting, yet quickly forgotten moment in one of the debates with Hillary. When racism came up, he did not even make an effort to deny it. His whole response was you're just as bad, don't go with that holier than thou attitude. Maybe it doesn't mean much. I remembered that as strange.
He might really just think everyone is racist, and because he's such a tremendous guy everyone else is just even more racist than him. "I'm the least racist person you'll ever meet." Maybe there's more to that than just strange bragging, and he might not be that complex.

So you're really using that someone called him a racist and he didn't reply with a "No I'm not" as proof he's a racist?

Quote:I see my list (plus all the additional things) and think about his attitude and it fits. And I believe the assumption that Trump has racist attitudes to be as objective as possible. No party interests here.

Of course it's no political interest; it's simply the fact that you are a liberal. 

Quote:I don't think they are just race-baiting or that this is a fair evaluation of their motives. Given they see things similar to me.

Of course you don't think they're race-baiting as you've already come to the conclusion that he's a racist

Quote:Well. Couple things.
First and foremost, it having to do with the name doesn't really make it so much less racist, does it?
Second, Mr. Trump not only created the movement (not him alone, ok), but never cared the tiniest bit about it becoming a pool for undeniably proven racists, that hated Obama for being black and used his being muslim as an equivalency of him being evil. You can see them on the comments boards, they are plenty. All that happened, all that was in the very core of the birther movement, and Mr. Trump was not opposed, did not distance himself, never stood up against it, all those years.
With what the birther thing had to do in the very beginning? I do not really believe the most harmless of explanations (it was a pretty shabby move at the very least), but it doesn't really matter. What matters it what the movement became under the direct aid of Mr. Trump.

Of course the name matters. Ask yourself (no answer required because I know what it will be): What assumption would you make about someone named Barak Hussain Obama?
Every time Trump has been called to denounce (which carries its own stupidity) someone proven racist; he has done so. As Breech was kind enough to post he did the same thing with Cruz. Is he racist toward Canadians? he just doesn't have the PC filter turned on.  

Quote:I really don't know. And I do not grasp the point.

They are black. If he started the birther movement strictly because of color then why didn't he do it when Cain was opposing Obama or when Carson was opposing him?