Trump's First 100 Days

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(02-17-2017, 07:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Hillary and many of the libs are akin to slave owners. They placate the minorities to keep them under their control. Hill's hot sauce comment was an example.

Yeah... you lost me on that one. That doesn't make too much sense and I actually think you'd like to review that. And it does sound a bit like you would call her racist now.

(02-17-2017, 07:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: And of course you would have placed the Hot Sauce comment here is Trump would have made it; as you freely posted about his taco bowl. What is it you said? That's how they roll.

I freely posted that because it was not a single incident, but part of a pattern.
If it were a single incident and Mr. Trump didn't have the history he had, I probably would have given the same evaluation as I did with the Hillary sauce comment: Stupid. Irrelevant.
With Hillary, it's not part of a pattern. It's this and a rather obscure claim that she is akin to a slave owner because she ran for president and went for the black votes.
In a logical consequence, you could say Trump is less racist than Hillary because he focused on the white votes.
Go there or rethink?

(02-17-2017, 07:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Just as you most likely would have used the following quote to solidify the Trump is a racist stance:

No I wouldn't.

(02-17-2017, 07:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So you're really using that someone called him a racist and he didn't reply with a "No I'm not" as proof he's a racist?

No, not proof. More of a clue.
I even think he really believes he is "the least racist person anyone's ever gonna meet". That his self-glorification hides his own racism from himself by him thinking everone is worse than Donald the Great. Might be.
What makes you so sure he isn't racist?

(02-17-2017, 07:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Of course it's no political interest; it's simply the fact that you are a liberal. 

I feel you equate being Anti-Trump with being "liberal". I do not even know exactly what that means for an European. We don't really have that here.

(02-17-2017, 07:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Of course you don't think they're race-baiting as you've already come to the conclusion that he's a racist

That's right. So did they, and it's not "sad" or out of the line to share these thoughts and observations. I said I think this particular case is thin. Another example I would not put on my list. But I don't think race-bait is a fair evaluation, as if it were just a crude liberal game towards a completely innocent man. If you think it's just that, I think you're not being very open-minded.

(02-17-2017, 07:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Of course the name matters. Ask yourself (no answer required because I know what it will be): What assumption would you make about someone named Barak Hussain Obama?

Yeah I would think he's a muslim.
And when he ran for president, at some point I would probably have informed myself, I would have learned that he's not, and at this point I would have friggin stopped to think or publicly say it. I mean, really.

(02-17-2017, 07:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Every time Trump has been called to denounce (which carries its own stupidity) someone proven racist; he has done so. As Breech was kind enough to post he did the same thing with Cruz. Is he racist toward Canadians? he just doesn't have the PC filter turned on.  

No, he just wanted to slam Cruz. That doesn't really prove anything though. It wouldn't make up for addressing some black guy with a racial slur if you found a white guy and gave him a racial slur afterwards. Not that I equate it; I just want to show why I think it's absurd to use the Cruz example to deny the racism in the birther movement.
Again, the latter went on for years and became a platform for anti-muslim anti-black anti-Obama hate speech, and Mr. Trump and his racist birther supporters continued his brave work of delegitimizing the president nevertheless and without any concern about that racist base. He was a racist's hero for that and he at least didn't mind.
I don't really know if you want to strike a blow for members of the birther movement or people that called Obama a Kenyan muslim. If you don't want to do that, you can't let Trump get away with at least a stain.

(02-17-2017, 07:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: They are black. If he started the birther movement strictly because of color then why didn't he do it when Cain was opposing Obama or when Carson was opposing him?

I don't know. I didn't say "strictly", I don't know why he started it, I said starting it was at the very least a shabby move and that's that. 

You want to prove that it's more because of the name and not so much because of the skin color? Well, I can only repeat, that really doesn't make it less racist. The period where ignorance is an excuse (but he's called Hussein!") was a very short one. By repeating the kenyan muslim sentiment a person is either utterly ignorant or putting out a deliberate lie on grounds of bias against muslims, blacks or black muslims or whatever. Either way, racist.