Trump's First 100 Days

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(02-17-2017, 10:14 PM)hollodero Wrote: Yeah... you lost me on that one. That doesn't make too much sense and I actually think you'd like to review that. And it does sound a bit like you would call her racist now.


I freely posted that because it was not a single incident, but part of a pattern.
If it were a single incident and Mr. Trump didn't have the history he had, I probably would have given the same evaluation as I did with the Hillary sauce comment: Stupid. Irrelevant.
With Hillary, it's not part of a pattern. It's this and a rather obscure claim that she is akin to a slave owner because she ran for president and went for the black votes.
In a logical consequence, you could say Trump is less racist than Hillary because he focused on the white votes.
Go there or rethink?


No I wouldn't.


No, not proof. More of a clue.
I even think he really believes he is "the least racist person anyone's ever gonna meet". That his self-glorification hides his own racism from himself by him thinking everone is worse than Donald the Great. Might be.
What makes you so sure he isn't racist?


I feel you equate being Anti-Trump with being "liberal". I do not even know exactly what that means for an European. We don't really have that here.


That's right. So did they, and it's not "sad" or out of the line to share these thoughts and observations. I said I think this particular case is thin. Another example I would not put on my list. But I don't think race-bait is a fair evaluation, as if it were just a crude liberal game towards a completely innocent man. If you think it's just that, I think you're not being very open-minded.


Yeah I would think he's a muslim.
And when he ran for president, at some point I would probably have informed myself, I would have learned that he's not, and at this point I would have friggin stopped to think or publicly say it. I mean, really.


No, he just wanted to slam Cruz. That doesn't really prove anything though. It wouldn't make up for addressing some black guy with a racial slur if you found a white guy and gave him a racial slur afterwards. Not that I equate it; I just want to show why I think it's absurd to use the Cruz example to deny the racism in the birther movement.
Again, the latter went on for years and became a platform for anti-muslim anti-black anti-Obama hate speech, and Mr. Trump and his racist birther supporters continued his brave work of delegitimizing the president nevertheless and without any concern about that racist base. He was a racist's hero for that and he at least didn't mind.
I don't really know if you want to strike a blow for members of the birther movement or people that called Obama a Kenyan muslim. If you don't want to do that, you can't let Trump get away with at least a stain.


I don't know. I didn't say "strictly", I don't know why he started it, I said starting it was at the very least a shabby move and that's that. 

You want to prove that it's more because of the name and not so much because of the skin color? Well, I can only repeat, that really doesn't make it less racist. The period where ignorance is an excuse (but he's called Hussein!") was a very short one. By repeating the kenyan muslim sentiment a person is either utterly ignorant or putting out a deliberate lie on grounds of bias against muslims, blacks or black muslims or whatever. Either way, racist.

I can see this is going nowhere, just a bunch of yes you would, no I would not. Folks can read the comments of each and determine which one approached the subject with the more open mind. You wouldn't have brought up the hot sauce comment if Trump would have made it, but you brought up the Taco Bowl comment because Trump made it. And somehow I'm the one not making sense.