Trump's First 100 Days

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(02-19-2017, 03:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Shabby, but not racist.

I already admitted as much. That the beginnings might very well be just a shabby move, I said that repeatedly.

Going there in 2011 (three years into the presidency), hence elevating a fan base that cried Kenyan muslim all over the internet, however, can and, as I would say, should be seen as using people's racial hatred to gain support. Which is not just shabby (although it also is incredibly shabby).

There is a distinct difference. If you don't think that Mr. Trump is racist (just the least racist person you've ever met), fine. If you don't think that he deliberately chose racist people's open racism as the core of his fanbase by sitting atop the movement from 2011 on, fine. But please do not even try to belittle those who see it differently based on these instances.

(02-19-2017, 03:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It was brought up for the exact same reason that Trump brought it up. Her and the birther thing was actually a pretty big deal, because Trump suggested in a debate when he was being painted a racist by his birth certificate remarks (surprise) that Hills and her folk actually started the birther movement. 

I think the outcome was they most likely didn't start it, but there is no question they brought it up. 

Yeah I heard that one. If that is true (and I did not look into it because it was not important to me), then sure, maybe this Hillary staffer that went that way was intending to go shabby. Hillary never said publicly anything about birth certificates though. If you can show she actually talked about that on the political stage, please prove me wrong.

"Birth certificate remarks" is funny though. He used all means to drag it onto the political arena, including offering 5 million dollars, it was more than just the occasional mention. He rode that movement alright, that especially at the time he started doing it and afterwards mainly consisted of openly racist folk.