Trump's First 100 Days

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(02-19-2017, 05:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Okey Doke: It's a stupid tweet;

Alright, respect fully restored.   

(02-19-2017, 05:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: as are a great number that he has made. He's petty and must strike back. He feels the media has treated him unfairly (they are not as fair as most in this forum) and he has to retaliate. As I said, he's learning on the job; perhaps he'll get it, perhaps he won't. Personally I hope he does even though his moves thus far have had a direct negative affect on me personally. There are those whose sole motivation is to see him fail and will bring up EVERYTHING and then try to suggest they are only bringing up the important stuff.

He had a rally recently, this rally hurt no one and those that attended were happy to be there; however, to some this is a big deal, just as many other trivial things he has done.

It's OK to think he's a "terrible" person; hell, he might be, but the pettiness that has been displayed by both sides is unprecedented.  

I even agree up to some part with this. Save the outrage for the important things.
But some things are important for me, like the enemy of the American people tweet.
You call the tweet stupid, and fair enough, that is one possible evaluation. I, however, also call it dangerous and unacceptable in a democracy.
Mainly because it's part of a greater pattern for me.
It's an authoritarian stance, and not the first one. I throw in, with different levels of importance,  "so-called" judge, the Stephen Miller "his power is not to be questioned" saying, stirring up the masses with factual lies about murder rates and unemployment, threatening to send the Feds, immediately drawing the national security card, claiming that three millions voted illegally without any kind of hard evidence, using his platform of POTUS to slam Nordstrom for not selling Ivankas clothes, replacing diplomats with confidantes and Bannon on the NSC comes to mind. Russia ties need to be investigated fully, his business ties look shady (like increased Mar-a-Lago fees and letting diplomats stay in his hotels) and also need to be investigated (I think)... all that is the pattern. Of actively going for a leader cult to whom the rules no longer apply. Oh, and there's the constant, shameless lieing (tax returns?) and agitating (massacres, bad hombres and such). The rally itself looks strange, the implying something happened last night in Sweden is more than just strange.

While Trump defenders, in my view, seem to ignore any pattern and regard the instances as strictly singular, using their singularity as grounds to offer alternative interpretations for each individual cause. I didn't mean that "alternative" as a Kellyanne slam. I merely take the stance that "benefit of the doubt" is a principle that only applies so many times.

Am I overdoing the tweet's importance? I don't know, I only can say that the awareness of that particular one is very high in foreign countries. But maybe there's no danger and he's just even more stupid than I thought. Or maybe it's a danger that can't be averted. Or maybe he could get impeached.


Honest question, from your standpoint: Wouldn't you think both the country and your cause would be better served if Pence took over and Trump got impeached at some point?

If I had to design a politician that doesn't support my stances in the most distinct way legitimately possible, he would look a lot like Mike Pence. So there's no real political motive for me when rooting for this to happen. I still do, though. For it sure looks like the best defense Trump can get at this point (imho, imho) is that he is just utterly stupid, and that would not be a good thing for a president as well. Only in this case one might hope that things get better in time (and I wouldn't know how, but well).
If he is not just utterly stupid, then I have to assume he is laying the ground for something leading to some kind of authoritarianism. And next thing there suddenly are emergency decrees and government oversight over information. That doesn't make things less dangerous. For me.