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[Dill]

(03-04-2017, 03:21 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Blaming people, no.  Blaming the strength of their arguments, yes.  The democrats lost the last election not because the opposing candidate was better, but because they were tone deaf to the cries of many voters, took their victory for granted and treated opposing viewpoints as disdainful relics of a bygone era.  In short, they are a recent, and excellent example of the point I am making, if your argument cannot win over people then your argument was improperly formulated.

You did Write: "If your ideas cannot be articulated into words sufficient to win over the people then you only have yourself to blame."

You DID NOT write: If your ideas cannot be articulated into words sufficient to win over the people then you only have the strength of your argument to blame.

And I disagree with you either way. There are many reasons why arguments might not "win" people over. the criterion "properly formulated" begs many questions. Hitler won over many people. His argument was properly formulated for a certain audience.  Is there an audience-independent criterion?  

The winning candidate in the last presidential election was fine with "treating opposing view points as disdainful relics of a bygone era"--whether opposing Republicans or Democrats. His voters loved it when he shut up "little Marco" for his "bygone" immigration stance. Perhaps this was "properly formulated" for that audience, but not for Democrats?