03-13-2018, 07:08 PM
(03-13-2018, 04:44 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No, but it is impossible to have any sort of serious debate witha person like you who will never make a clear statement, but instead wants to play games with vague questions and implications
Odd, then, that others don't seem to have this issue. Within this very thread, even.
Quote:So to clear things up, are you in favor of letting mentally insane people own weapons, and if not how do you recommend we enforce that regulation.
Is that what I said?
(03-13-2018, 04:48 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't care how you store your weapons. I just want to be able to hold you responsible if you don't take proper precautions to keep them out of the hands of children.
Then I'd advise you to talk to the lawmakers who craft such laws differently.
Quote:This is such a basic concept it is ridiculous that I have to spell it out for you.
Oh yeah, Fred, spell it out for me good!
Quote:We have regulations for all types of dangerous items and substances that are put in place to hold people responsible for their negligent handling of these items or substances. I don't see why anyone woulkd not understand how these same type of regulations should not apply to guns.
Wait, so if your kid gets a hold of a Tide pod or drinks some bleach you will be held criminally liable?
(03-13-2018, 05:00 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The only law you have been talking about breaking is a potential gun confiscation law.
Sorry, no. Stop lying Fred, I didn't talk about breaking any law.
Quote: You clearly stated that one reason you oppose a gun registry is because it would make gun confiscation easier.
See, you can tell the truth when you try really hard!
Quote:And the only reason you would have a problem with that would be if you were not going to surrender you gun if a law was passed saying you had to.
I'd really hate to think of a day in which the government came to confiscate our firearms. Best to not give them the option so authoritarian types don't feel the need to scratch that itch.
Quote:Again it is amazing how I have to explain every little detail in order for you to understand simple concepts that we have already been discussing.
I'm very stupid, Fred. It's difficult for me to keep up with a titanic intellect such as yours.
Quote:And I have not have not said that i would take away any of your civil liberties.
You mean except for the ones you've progressively advocated in this thread? Such a relief.
Quote:I have said all along that you can own your guns.
Thank you for granting me the permission already given to me by the framers of our current government. Mighty generous of you.
Quote:All I am proposing are regulations for the sake of public safety that would not take away ANY of your civil liberties.
In your opinion and at the present moment, maybe. However, as you've so adequately demonstrated in this thread, I don't think anyone believes you or your ilk will stop with the demands of today and declare yourself satisfied in perpetuity.
Quote:Now please explain how this has "helped your argument", because I don't see it at all.
I wouldn't expect you to you, Fred. I wouldn't expect you to.
