Mass shootings

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(03-15-2018, 09:23 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: let's see...

Yes...let's.

First: "Confiscate"

Quote:con·fis·cate

ˈkänfəˌskāt/
verb

1. take or seize (someone's property) with authority.
   "the guards confiscated his camera"
   synonyms:
   impound, seize, commandeer, requisition, appropriate, expropriate, sequester, sequestrate, take (away); 
   distrain
   "the guards confiscated his camera"
   
   
   • take (a possession, especially land) as a penalty and give it to the public treasury.
     "the government confiscated his property
     

Moving along....

(03-15-2018, 09:23 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Canada...registration list 1990s, old guns grandfathered in, but this list is used for the state to confiscate the guns upon the death of the holder with no compensation to the estate

I found nothing...NOTHING that said they are confiscating guns.  At all.  They even stopped charging for the registration and registered gun ownership has gone UP.

Now there were a few blogs and a post from the NRA that claims "confiscation has begun" with no proof attached to them.

(03-15-2018, 09:23 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: 1996 Australia used it's list of registered semiauto hunting rifles to confiscate all those weapons.

They did not "use the list" to "confiscate weapons.  They created different licenses for different guns.  You could try and get the license or turn your guns in for fair value.

And they allow for amnesty to turn in guns that are unwanted or unregistered.

I did not find where they confiscated guns.

There are still plenty of guns in Australia...owned by the public.  And there is a minimum level of training needed to own even something like a pistol.

(03-15-2018, 09:23 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: And finally .... New Zealand, 1921 the ownership of revolvers were allowed in the name of personal defense, 1970s this list was used to confiscate all revolvers.

This one I did find a reference too!  And it got excellent reviews from the four people who reviewed it.

I also found a reference to the 1970's:

Quote:On 10th March 1972 Paul Miet, a Wellington Jeweller, was fatally shot in a robbery and that incident appears to have been the catalyst for a change to New Zealand's gun laws - specifically the removal of the natural right of individuals to defend themselves in their own homes with whatever force was necessary. The 1974 Arms Amendment Act created a very short list of organisations and people who would thereafter be permitted to possess pistols. I.e. bona fide collectors, people to whom the pistol was an heirloom, memento or souvenir, members of incorporated and recognised pistol shooting clubs, as well as bona fide museums. Most believed that Government initiated these changes but they appear to have originated from the Police Department.


Pistols in the hands of people and organisations other than the above were surrendered and destroyed. Many of the destroyed pistols were rare and unusual guns that had been old when first registered in 1920.

So while technically correct that they used the list to collect the guns it was not a direct line that had the government confiscating guns from citizens.



And while it is an arduous process to get a gun license it can be done...and there are guns there:

Quote:About 230,000 licensed firearms owners own and use New Zealand's estimated 1.1 million firearms.