Hoda Muthana

[Dill]

(02-26-2019, 11:26 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: A fair policy question.   I'll throw a second wrinkle in here.  She has no US passport.  As far as I know there is no legal requirement for us to provide her with one or to go and fetch her from her self-imposed exile.

A truly progressive view.  I'll again offer second alternative.  She broke the law in Syria, let her be tried there as any US citizen would be tried in another country in which they broke the law.  These ISIS brides were often, if not always, complicit in the forced marriage and rape of enslaved women such as the Kurds or Yazidi.  She can stay in Syria until she is properly tried.  If she somehow makes it back to the US she can be tried by us for providing material aid to a terrorist organization.  Sorry, but I don't buy into your idea that she can somehow be used as a propaganda tool against islamic extremism.

You and Bels are having a great discussion. I don't have time to jump in, and probably won't till tomorrow.

But I can't resist tossing out one question--who would conduct Muthana's trial in Syria? The Alawite regime we don't consider legitimate?  This would be like sending El Chapo back to Mexico to be tried by another drug cartel.

Also, to whom is ISIS propaganda addressed in the West?  Mostly to people like Muthana. Understanding why the group was attractive to her is important to people trying to counter ISIS propaganda in the UK and the US.  Someone explaining, first, how she was fooled or brainwashed or whatever, and second, what life was really like under ISIS government, might seem very useful to people addressing at risk audiences.

I'm not the only one who thinks so:

To Syria And Back: How 2 Women Escaped Their Radicalized Husband
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/08/635252666/to-syria-and-back-how-2-women-escaped-their-radicalized-husbands
The former ‘First Lady of ISIS’ now loves Reform Jews, plans to visit Jerusalem
https://www.timesofisrael.com/the-former-first-lady-of-isis-now-loves-reform-jews-plans-to-visit-jerusalem/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-was-an-isis-bride-from-london-then-one-day-i-escaped-xj57jsv0q

More later.